Buying back Dens----an option

[Returnofrros]

To me Nelms pops his head above the parapit once a year around March to make a half hearted push for season tics.....it's not good enough......communication with the fans is almost non existent.

It's only a dog track, it's only the open bit of the Derry, it's only a staircase, it's only a ****ing hose, it's only a wall to block exit, it's only graffiti, it's only railings (improvement jesus), it's only a puddle, it's only queuing 3 times,......all sorted by a new stadium......if only.

[islaydarkblue]

I have just noticed this topic which is a subject that I have carried extensive research on particularly the new stadium development at Campy Nou. I have also discovered how and for what reason Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited was originally set up.
I believe that the new stadium development at Campy Nou is ‘dead in the water’ because the company set up by Tim Keyes and John Nelms as the trading arm of the Campy Nou development, Camperdown Elm Trading Limited was dissolved on 17th August 2021 due to their failure to submit their annual accounts for the year ending 31st March 2020 to Companies House on time. https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history
Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited was also under threat of being struck off again due to their failure to submit their annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2020 to Companies House on time. https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history
In the event John Nelms signed off and submitted very basic Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2020 on 6th September 2021 to Companies House.
This was around the same time as John Nelms was supposed to be back in America. The DBPH accounts look like they been prepared very quickly as there is no mention in the accounts of the funds currently being lent to Dundee Football Club Limited or the DBPH shareholding in 71 Brewing Limited where John Nelms is a director.

[eric_sinclair]

If the foundation, through the fans are investing thousands they can surely ask for a meet with nelms?
If he refuses they can just bank the money just now?
Fans only want to know the plans going forward as to dens or a new stadium.
Prob be better playing at mcdermaid as numbers wud be more than at Tannadice.

[islaydarkblue]

If the foundation, through the fans are investing thousands they can surely ask for a meet with nelms?
If he refuses they can just bank the money just now?
Fans only want to know the plans going forward as to dens or a new stadium.
Prob be better playing at mcdermaid as numbers wud be more than at Tannadice.

That is a very sensible idea.
If Nelms refuses to speak to the members of the Foundation advising them of the club’s plans going forward regarding Dens Park or the new stadium then the members can play their trump card. They can suspend their monthly payments until Nelms speaks to them .

[Returnofrros]

I don't know the answers to the points you make. I would have thought that a football club that owns its own ground would be a better bet than a tenant of the club's major competition for supporters.

I thought the football element was I portent to the potential success for planning permission. Thought the club was key to the project. As you point out there may be no link at all in which case my hope that a profit on Campy might be rolled into redevelopment at Dens to minimise capital gains tax. I know nothing so won't be unduly upset if this is wrong.

I think the why is based on the way that Americans view the pro ision of sporting facilities. They have not seen the progress that they assumed that money would buy them and I am hopeful that they are moving in the right direction with McPake. I get it that there is a sizeable chunk of the support who have no faith in McPake and a good few who are underwhelmed by the behaviour of John Nelms. My problem is that I don't have a plan B.

No one is chasing them out......I want them to communicate.

[BCram]

No one is chasing them out......I want them to communicate.

Agree.

[islaydarkblue]

No one is chasing them out......I want them to communicate.

I do not understand why John Nelms will not communicate with the Dundee supporters especially as they
are contributing towards his lavish salary.
The longer Nelms ignores the Dundee supporters the worse things will get.

[BCram]

Would anyone trade the A shares? If so, what would you want for them?

[Deeranged]

Would anyone trade the A shares? If so, what would you want for them?

No, no, no, no, no - they'll change our colours and have us playing at Tannadice before you can say 'A Share'.

Those shares are all we have protecting the club's tradition.

[islaydarkblue]

Would anyone trade the A shares? If so, what would you want for them?

You must remember the vote that DFCSS members had in January 2019 when FPS offered the derisory amount of £8,000 for all the A shares because the entire DFCSS shareholding in Dundee Football Club Limited was valued at £1 in their annual accounts.
The true value of the entire shareholding of the ordinary and A shares at 1.35p each are now listed in the DFCSS annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2020.
In my opinion the A shares are priceless and must never be sold.