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    Quote Originally Posted by gru View Post
    What about promotion by PPG very unlikely that season we would have gone up.
    Go on then genius, explain why it was ‘very unlikely’ that a team in second position on a losing run of one would go up?

    I understand we’ll never known what would’ve happened but what makes you so sure? I fully expect a garbled nonsensical response but feel free to prove me wrong.

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    It is possible to have enjoyed both Evans and Warne’s times as managers. I know I did. It isn’t necessary to prefer one over the other.

    It is also ok to question Matt Taylor’s tactics lately without calling for him to be sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scum-Triumphant View Post
    It is possible to have enjoyed both Evans and Warne’s times as managers. I know I did. It isn’t necessary to prefer one over the other.

    It is also ok to question Matt Taylor’s tactics lately without calling for him to be sacked.
    It's a good point. In a world where we are being guided away from black and white comparisons it seems more and more people only see things as black or white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMiller View Post
    It's a good point. In a world where we are being guided away from black and white comparisons it seems more and more people only see things as black or white.
    Dichotomous thinking could be a sign of narcissism! I think society is being guided towards it though,rather than away. My late Father said to me several times as a child........'the world is black and white....there are no grey areas'! The two things I learn't from that were that your parents are not always right and that the world is made up mostly of varying shades of grey.....maybe 50.....without the toys!!

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    "We’re determined to stay in the Championship, we’ve been there before. If we do the same again we’re going to go down. We’re going to do something different. I know that to stay there we need a competitive squad. I’ve got my eyes wide open. The wallet will have to play a part".

    Your words Mr Stewart. Let's see if you translate them into action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masbroughstreet View Post
    Go on then genius, explain why it was ‘very unlikely’ that a team in second position on a losing run of one would go up?

    I understand we’ll never known what would’ve happened but what makes you so sure? I fully expect a garbled nonsensical response but feel free to prove me wrong.


    All I can remember about that season was same as this we were short of players when season on the field ended. Same as now some were injured some weren't good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gru View Post
    All I can remember about that season was same as this we were short of players when season on the field ended. Same as now some were injured some weren't good enough.
    I'm going to lower myself and christen you a "Matty Boy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Townerslovechild View Post
    I'm going to lower myself and christen you a "Matty Boy".
    Love it 🙂

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    There is a comparison with warmest team last season compared to the previous league 1covid cancel season...

    The common factor was injurys. Last season we lost first team regular in REG Miller and Ladaop through injury. We went through a period getting 4 points from 18.
    Then the injurys return we sneek a late winner and sneek over the line on the last day.

    The covid season we lost Linsey olosunde and mattock. I recall the last game before covid we played billy Jones at LB and wiles LW with I think Thompson at RB.

    Warnes team struggled playing against teams like Shrewsbury Rochdale ect with 3 or 4 main players missing. MT has had to endure injury and illness to far more players and he playing better teams. MT took over had a decent start. The injurys kicked in and it was all down hill. Kelly, Washington, eaves, wiles, hall, Humphreys, kioso,. Bola, Ferguson, bramhall,. Are the names I can remember remember being injured whilst MT has been manager.
    He needs a break in luck because what he's trying to do will give us a better chance of staying in the championship going forward than playing the warne way.
    Btw I'm not saying MT is a better manager than warne just different styles of playing.
    though for the players we can afford MT style will suit us in the championship more than it would in league 1...
    Will he keep us up. I would say comfortable with the squad we have before the world cup. Now it's down to his management skills as injury. Illness and players being distracted by moves away are not helping.
    Imo the 5 players who's contract are up this summer should have had a deadline to sign. Eg 31st Dec.
    If they don't sign Mt needs to decide if a sale or retaining them before loosing them for nowt is best for the club.
    Will TS back MT? Well imo there's a pot of cash each season. Once it's gone it's gone. Has warne spent this cash? I don't know and I'm sure others wouldn't know.
    If we ship out/sell 3 or 4 players then MT should be able to replace them. Will the money be available for over and above this amount. This will show and when we can say TS is backing MT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    There is a comparison with warmest team last season compared to the previous league 1covid cancel season...

    The common factor was injurys. Last season we lost first team regular in REG Miller and Ladaop through injury. We went through a period getting 4 points from 18.
    Then the injurys return we sneek a late winner and sneek over the line on the last day.

    The covid season we lost Linsey olosunde and mattock. I recall the last game before covid we played billy Jones at LB and wiles LW with I think Thompson at RB.

    Warnes team struggled playing against teams like Shrewsbury Rochdale ect with 3 or 4 main players missing. MT has had to endure injury and illness to far more players and he playing better teams. MT took over had a decent start. The injurys kicked in and it was all down hill. Kelly, Washington, eaves, wiles, hall, Humphreys, kioso,. Bola, Ferguson, bramhall,. Are the names I can remember remember being injured whilst MT has been manager.
    He needs a break in luck because what he's trying to do will give us a better chance of staying in the championship going forward than playing the warne way.
    Btw I'm not saying MT is a better manager than warne just different styles of playing.
    though for the players we can afford MT style will suit us in the championship more than it would in league 1...
    Will he keep us up. I would say comfortable with the squad we have before the world cup. Now it's down to his management skills as injury. Illness and players being distracted by moves away are not helping.
    Imo the 5 players who's contract are up this summer should have had a deadline to sign. Eg 31st Dec.
    If they don't sign Mt needs to decide if a sale or retaining them before loosing them for nowt is best for the club.
    Will TS back MT? Well imo there's a pot of cash each season. Once it's gone it's gone. Has warne spent this cash? I don't know and I'm sure others wouldn't know.
    If we ship out/sell 3 or 4 players then MT should be able to replace them. Will the money be available for over and above this amount. This will show and when we can say TS is backing MT...


    That is far too sensible for this board 😆

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