If we reach the Play offs...

[Acido]

No argument from me Acido. Just expressing my opinion and releasing frustration. Didn't mean to go off topic.

You didn't Pass, it wasn't aimed at you!.

[Dingle council]

Jules has a point tb honest
It’s way more enjoyable in league 1
We are a big fish in this league and win a lot more games than we lose and getting a shot at Wembley
Is playing in the championship the c@ck n boll@x we think, struggling and becoming minnows
I’d like to think that we’d follow Luton n millwalls path but it’s more likely going to be Rotherham’s
Not being a doom monger
I’d love to go back up but is it better been successful in a lower league than struggle in a higher league?

[pass_and_move]

I don’t think it’s a rant - it’s your opinion - but IMO I think most of it is wrong.
A few comments:
Firstly - every player in the world has a price.

If we get offered decent money we will sell - so will every other football club in the world.

If we asked supporters about their view’s regarding buying and selling players we would literally be playing pub football by now.

Short memories - can you remember what the policy was before Moneyball - a team full of loans and one year contract players.
Every season a new team had to be brought in.
The Drinkwater season was a typical example of that era - the club flying and come Christmas the midfield left the club.
You may want the Mido years back - I don’t - and neither do the Crynes.

‘We want the owners to put their money where their mouth is.’
That’s an astonishing statement after this weeks news - and shows a lack of understanding of what’s happening behind the scenes.

Duff is at the club - because of one reason and one reason only - because the directors employed him.

We sold players last season in the £1 million bracket. Luton paid their highest ever fee for a player - that player was from Barnsley.
Those player were sold because they wanted to leave - and who can blame them after last season,

There still seems to be a belief amongst some supporters that all the directors are in the same boat - so all directors are responsible for what has happened since PMG took over.
That is clearly not the case - and that’s why supporters IMO should take a big interest in what is happening behind the scenes.

It’s now apparent that since PMG got hold of the club there has been turmoil at the club.
That came to a head last season.
This season is a total new start for the club - so the high press Moneyball blueprint cannot be judged until we are a few seasons down the line.
But IMO - it’s been a great start this season.
Players and head coach doing absolute wonders - and ALL of them recruited by the directors.
It’s totally beyond me how anyone can be negative about the club right now.

A club is only as good as its directors.
And we have some brilliant directors.

We don't know what is happening behind the scenes though do we? We're fed scraps and that's the frustrating part. Can you tell me the last time that the club told it's supporters how much a player was officially sold for?


Have I missed summat cos I ent heard news of owt this week. I seldom read the club website either. Has the consortium put money in? If so it doesn't define me as having a lack of understanding just because I've missed this week's news. I was talking about the whole 9 years since we've employed the moneyball system.


For the record as well, I never really approved of how the club was run by the Crynes prior to the change of strategy in 2014 so no, I wouldn't want to go back to the 'Mido' years of loans and one year contracts as you put it. Seems a trifle contradictory all this anyway Nudger- What was James Norwoods length of contract when we signed him by the way? And how many loan players currently are in the squad? And also If I'm not mistaken, the team changes and needs rebuilding every season with the moneyball system. Not a great deal has changed then. Tha'll happy clap at owt the club tells thi.


The club was run best under John Dennis imo. Ok, the ITV DIGITAL collapse sent the club into administration unfortunately but its like SKY going bust now- it'd kill most championship clubs if there was no TV revenue coming in.


With Dennis, he was astute with the finances considering the average gate in the early 90s was around 6k. He knew how to address the supporters too, spoke our language did Dennis. He was ambitious too and wanted what was best for the club most importantly.


He kept the club comfortably in the championship for over a decade with very few relegation battles on crowds of 6k whilst rebuilding the stadium, building an academy and the club gaining promotion to the PL.


As a Barnsley supporter, I am loving the stuff on the pitch. No negatives at all in that respect. Not from me. The players and Head coach are working wonders.


The club and how it's been run however is a different discussion and that's what I was talking about. The last 9 years under moneyball have been very challenging and frustrating. The club will carry on being run with the emphasis on money rather than ambition. Just because we're having a good season doesn’t alter that fact and I'm not going to be blinded by it either.

[Dingle council]

You’re forgetting we’ve got James the genius though pass

[Acido]

Yeah but how does that work.
If we want to keep having successful seasons like that in Lg One, that surely will mean us finishing in the top 6.
So does that mean then if we get to the Play offs, you'd rather we lose in them every time and never go up ?. 😲

[pass_and_move]

Jules has a point tb honest
It’s way more enjoyable in league 1
We are a big fish in this league and win a lot more games than we lose and getting a shot at Wembley
Is playing in the championship the c@ck n boll@x we think, struggling and becoming minnows
I’d like to think that we’d follow Luton n millwalls path but it’s more likely going to be Rotherham’s
Not being a doom monger
I’d love to go back up but is it better been successful in a lower league than struggle in a higher league?

Personally I'd prefer the quality of football on in the championship if Barnsley were in it. Watching the Reds being tested week in week out by decent sides with ability and who are able to pass the ball is far more appealing and entertaining viewing.

Winning in league 1 is nice but the game last Saturday against Morecambe was a prime example of how poor some of the sides are in this division and for me it wasn't good viewing in terms of competitiveness. To be fair, quite a few games haven't been good viewing in terms of quality and competitiveness this season. That's what tha gets in lower leagues though.

[Jules88]

Personally I'd prefer the quality of football on in the championship if Barnsley were in it. Watching the Reds being tested week in week out by decent sides with ability and who are able to pass the ball is far more appealing and entertaining viewing.

Winning in league 1 is nice but the game last Saturday against Morecambe was a prime example of how poor some of the sides are in this division and for me it wasn't good viewing in terms of competitiveness. To be fair, quite a few games haven't been good viewing in terms of quality and competitiveness this season. That's what tha gets in lower leagues though.

For all we think we aren’t lower league…. We actually are. In most things. Longest serving member of the “second tier” or not, we are no big hitters any more. Financially, or of reputation.
I think we may have found our place for a long time in this division if we don’t go up, or under.

Totally agree with you ref John Dennis.

[Young_Nudger]

Years ago when people spoke about the Barnsley directors it was common to hear the phrase ‘they don’t want to go up’.

I never thought I’d hear supporters discussing that.

[animallittle3]

I don’t think it’s a rant - it’s your opinion - but IMO I think most of it is wrong.
A few comments:
Firstly - every player in the world has a price.

If we get offered decent money we will sell - so will every other football club in the world.

If we asked supporters about their view’s regarding buying and selling players we would literally be playing pub football by now.

Short memories - can you remember what the policy was before Moneyball - a team full of loans and one year contract players.
Every season a new team had to be brought in.
The Drinkwater season was a typical example of that era - the club flying and come Christmas the midfield left the club.
You may want the Mido years back - I don’t - and neither do the Crynes.

‘We want the owners to put their money where their mouth is.’
That’s an astonishing statement after this weeks news - and shows a lack of understanding of what’s happening behind the scenes.

Duff is at the club - because of one reason and one reason only - because the directors employed him.

We sold players last season in the £1 million bracket. Luton paid their highest ever fee for a player - that player was from Barnsley.
Those player were sold because they wanted to leave - and who can blame them after last season,

There still seems to be a belief amongst some supporters that all the directors are in the same boat - so all directors are responsible for what has happened since PMG took over.
That is clearly not the case - and that’s why supporters IMO should take a big interest in what is happening behind the scenes.

It’s now apparent that since PMG got hold of the club there has been turmoil at the club.
That came to a head last season.
This season is a total new start for the club - so the high press Moneyball blueprint cannot be judged until we are a few seasons down the line.
But IMO - it’s been a great start this season.
Players and head coach doing absolute wonders - and ALL of them recruited by the directors.
It’s totally beyond me how anyone can be negative about the club right now.

A club is only as good as its directors.
And we have some brilliant directors.

Before Moneyball we had 8 consecutive seasons in the championship .

[pass_and_move]

Years ago when people spoke about the Barnsley directors it was common to hear the phrase ‘they don’t want to go up’.

I never thought I’d hear supporters discussing that.

"A tell thi nar, this lot dun't want to gu up"


"The can't affooard to gu up"

The cynics have always been abart. Dunt mean I agreed wi them either.