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Thread: Wimmin's World Cup

  1. #31
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    Dun gud gerrin to the Final but beaten by a better footballing team in the sultry, brown eyed Spanish.
    Tha could see in Aleesia's big, blue eyes she had been ruerrin after being tekken off.

    There will be a pile of ironing to do when they get back ooam. It'll not do itself.

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    Animal noted with raised eyebrows the great Billie Jean King amongst the dignitaries at this mornings world cup final .

    Nobody did more for women's tennis than Billie in relation to equal rights and more to the point prize money .

    She was instrumental in getting women the same money as men for the Grand Slam events and the other shared gender events on the tour .

    Now consider this for one moment will you .

    I've very little doubt the Chelsea men's team earn vastly more sums of money than the Chelsea ladies by some distance .

    Both represent Chelsea Football Club , wear the same shirt in the business of professional football .

    Whilst there are male players who earn more money than others at Chelsea that isn't decided on a count of gender , other factors come in to it .

    I'd suggest playing for the same club at professional level as the men do and receiving vastly less pay based on gender isn't going to last for too much longer and if this went to the European Court Of Human Rights the great many clubs who have introduced ladies professional football to their brand may well wish they hadn't done .

    One club , one budget , equal rights .

    Before posters come back with its not as good as the men's game let's remind ourselves that ladies tennis isn't the same quality as men's either at Grand Slam events but you can't discriminate on gender .

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    Correct Animal.

    Any claim for equal pay and conditions would sail through any Court.

    Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City etc could absorb the extra cost. What about a skint Third Division club having to pay wages equal to the men's first team having just absorbed the women into the club structure? Over to you JAQ.

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    There's the argument that women's football doesn't raise nowhere near the amount of television money and sponsorship revenue that mens football does. Hence the mens larger salaries. Until it does, there's no sound footing to suggest that this is anything to do with equal rights and is simply down to economics within the women's game imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    There's the argument that women's football doesn't raise nowhere near the amount of television money and sponsorship revenue that mens football does. Hence the mens larger salaries. Until it does, there's no sound footing to suggest that this is anything to do with equal rights and is simply down to economics within the women's game imo.
    All you say is correct Pass but the argument probably wouldn't stand up in an Equal Rights Court.

    Are they playing the same game M'Lord with the same rules and facilities ? Do they not represent the same club owners within the structure of the same club ? I put it to you M'Lord the only reason they are paid less is on the grounds of their gender and that is unlawful.

    You can see it coming fairly soon.

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    Extra line

    The Lionesses left Sydney more than 24 hours before landing at
    Heathrow around 6.20am on Tuesday morning.

    Waiting fans had carried signs and gathered in the airport to greet the World Cup runners-up, with hopes raised when the team's bags were wheeled through Terminal 3's arrivals hall.

    BBC commentator and former player Alex Scott was also spotted walking through the airport, but the team itself were nowhere to be seen and left waiting fans disappointed after leaving through a private exit.

    Airport staff eventually told waiting fans the team had left already.

    A great PR OG if you ask me.
    Last edited by POGGYWELL; 22-08-2023 at 03:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    There's the argument that women's football doesn't raise nowhere near the amount of television money and sponsorship revenue that mens football does. Hence the mens larger salaries. Until it does, there's no sound footing to suggest that this is anything to do with equal rights and is simply down to economics within the women's game imo.
    Your quite right Pass that the football economics don't favour the women's game and it's a solid point .

    Where that point would be dismissed as irrelevant in a Human Rights court in my opinion is the fact that , let's use Chelsea as an example , Chelsea are a professional football club that employs male and female footballers under one umbrella , both genders are employed to do the same job .

    Let me give you another example where men and women sports people competing in separate events but do the same job get the same pay , Wimbledon .

    The ladies economic argument doesn't stack up at Wimbledon , Flushing Meadow , Melbourne or Roland Garos , the men's singles final is watched globally by more people than the Ladies Final but the economics don't count for anything because both genders are playing a Grand Slam event at the same time .

    Both Chelsea football's clubs play professional football over a weekend , every single weekend during the football season a Wimbledon type event is created by professional footballers getting paid by Chelsea Football Club .

    Now if the ladies weren't part of Chelsea and were called Chelsea Belles and a separate entity altogether then economics would determine that Chelsea Belles would do well to even pay their players expenses never mind anything else .

    Once you bring the ladies in and pay them to play professional football same as the men then you are absolutely wide open in my opinion .

    Start flashing Euro winners medals , a world cup silver medal , one hundred caps and 30 WSL goals every season and you go from professional footballer to elite professional footballer just like Lampard but minus the England medals .

    It's the Serena Williams and Novak Djokovic at Wimbledon example .

    Billie Jean King wasn't sat in the stands on Sunday morning in Sydney for nothing in my opinion , she's getting sounded out as a consultant .

    Billie Jean was winning these battles in the 1970's when the world was a totally different place .

    The sight of that women should send shudders down the spines of the hierarchy at Stamford Bridge .

    Like it or not Millie Bright as England captain will be getting £50k a week before too long .

    Not because I think she warrants it but because today's society and culture says she does .

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Your quite right Pass that the football economics don't favour the women's game and it's a solid point .

    Where that point would be dismissed as irrelevant in a Human Rights court in my opinion is the fact that , let's use Chelsea as an example , Chelsea are a professional football club that employs male and female footballers under one umbrella , both genders are employed to do the same job .

    Let me give you another example where men and women sports people competing in separate events but do the same job get the same pay , Wimbledon .

    The ladies economic argument doesn't stack up at Wimbledon , Flushing Meadow , Melbourne or Roland Garos , the men's singles final is watched globally by more people than the Ladies Final but the economics don't count for anything because both genders are playing a Grand Slam event at the same time .

    Both Chelsea football's clubs play professional football over a weekend , every single weekend during the football season a Wimbledon type event is created by professional footballers getting paid by Chelsea Football Club .

    Now if the ladies weren't part of Chelsea and were called Chelsea Belles and a separate entity altogether then economics would determine that Chelsea Belles would do well to even pay their players expenses never mind anything else .

    Once you bring the ladies in and pay them to play professional football same as the men then you are absolutely wide open in my opinion .

    Start flashing Euro winners medals , a world cup silver medal , one hundred caps and 30 WSL goals every season and you go from professional footballer to elite professional footballer just like Lampard but minus the England medals .

    It's the Serena Williams and Novak Djokovic at Wimbledon example .

    Billie Jean King wasn't sat in the stands on Sunday morning in Sydney for nothing in my opinion , she's getting sounded out as a consultant .

    Billie Jean was winning these battles in the 1970's when the world was a totally different place .

    The sight of that women should send shudders down the spines of the hierarchy at Stamford Bridge .

    Like it or not Millie Bright as England captain will be getting £50k a week before too long .

    Not because I think she warrants it but because today's society and culture says she does .

    Yes I agree that it's pretty much a certainty despite my take on the situation.

    Where does this stop though? Does a thing like common sense and practicality become irrelevant in today's society?

    Football has, for a long time, bewildered me with the insane money that players get payed. The chickens are coming home to roost on this one, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POGGYWELL View Post
    The Lionesses left Sydney more than 24 hours before landing at
    Heathrow around 6.20am on Tuesday morning.

    Waiting fans had carried signs and gathered in the airport to greet the World Cup runners-up, with hopes raised when the team's bags were wheeled through Terminal 3's arrivals hall.

    BBC commentator and former player Alex Scott was also spotted walking through the airport, but the team itself were nowhere to be seen and left waiting fans disappointed after leaving through a private exit.

    Airport staff eventually told waiting fans the team had left already.

    A great PR OG if you ask me.
    Aleesia did look delightful with her blonde hair untied, tumbling over her shoulders, as the players strolled in possibly JAQ/ Devante Cole designed "tunnel wear".
    Last edited by SBRed48; 23-08-2023 at 07:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRed48 View Post
    Aleesia did look delightful with her blonde hair untied, tumbling over her shoulders, as the players strolled in possibly JAQ/ Devante Cole designed "tunnel wear".
    A see through negligee ought to be the tunnel wear of the England ladies team 🥵

    My missus was perusing the Ann Summers catalogue t'other day looking for a size 26 see through negligee and I thought to myself "who the bloody hell would want to see through that!"

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