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    I think it is clear, he is a beaten man. He no doubt is a nice man, but he shouldn't be managing our club. He shouldn't have been appointed and needs replacing quickly with somebody with professional experience. Tonight was an embarrassing **** show. Sorry to all the rose tinted glasses guys, someone needs to come in who can keep us in the League. We have been let down by recruitment for players and coaches. It obviously isn't good enough and isn't working. Not😄😄 now, is it?

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    There isn't really a right or wrong answer to the "give the manager more time" question. If we do and he's pants then bad news if we do and he's great in the long run then good news. If we don't then we will never know and we go back to managerial merry go round. I think we have to give him until the end of the season personally but I do concede that there are valid reasons to be quite concerned. However in times of crisis you need calm heads. Fortunately we have 2 of those running the joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenslandpie View Post
    There isn't really a right or wrong answer to the "give the manager more time" question. If we do and he's pants then bad news if we do and he's great in the long run then good news. If we don't then we will never know and we go back to managerial merry go round. I think we have to give him until the end of the season personally but I do concede that there are valid reasons to be quite concerned. However in times of crisis you need calm heads. Fortunately we have 2 of those running the joint.
    I'm not drawing any firm conclusions about Stuart Maynard yet.

    There's obviously no question he's had a poor start, but I agree with those who say this decline in form had already started before he arrived, and it's at least partly a personnel matter even if there need to be tactical changes too. The recent tough run of fixtures has brutally exposed weaknesses that were already there, and the confidence of the whole team is now low, which itself influences results.

    I think the basic fact is that some of the players who did so well taking us to promotion are now struggling at the higher level and will have to make way for better equipped replacements like Crowley and Robertson (although the obvious weakest area is central defence and full-back, where we'll need major upgrades).

    I'm sure the owners won't be rushing to any judgements on the Head Coach yet, even though we're in a very tough run and the pressure does increase the longer it goes on. They will look for a much bigger 'sample size' of results, being data-led folk. Maynard's best approach will be to treat this as an opportunity rather than a threat, to try to assemble a team from current resources that can at least stop conceding so many goals, and then wait some significant upgrades on the defensive side of the ball before next season.

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    14th Notts County P34 W14 D5 L15 F69 A66 +3 Pts47. (Look out below!!!)

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    As nice a guy that SM seems ,i think everybody knows he will not turn this round.He will get a decent pay off ,but please do this tomorrow morning.

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    Incidentally anyone who thinks that Sam Austin is better than JB must see things different to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piessince67 View Post
    As nice a guy that SM seems ,i think everybody knows he will not turn this round.He will get a decent pay off ,but please do this tomorrow morning.
    Agree, he should go tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky View Post
    He's here until at least the end of the season whether you like it or not.
    Well that clearly shows our club isn't in safe hands, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodypie View Post
    Well that clearly shows our club isn't in safe hands, doesn't it?
    Time will tell.

    The current owners aren't in the habit of making emotional decisions based on a relatively small sample size of results, and although that patient approach certainly doesn't guarantee that a later/slower decision will always be the better one, their track record so far has been more encouraging than their predecessors.

    Trew and Hardy (and other owners after Pavis) made several early/fast decisions on managers but left the club in a worse position than they inherited it, so a case certainly hasn't been made (consistently) for the early dismissal approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    Time will tell.

    The current owners aren't in the habit of making emotional decisions based on a relatively small sample size of results, and although that patient approach certainly doesn't guarantee that a later/slower decision will always be the better one, their track record so far has been more encouraging than their predecessors.

    Trew and Hardy (and other owners after Pavis) made several early/fast decisions on managers but left the club in a worse position than they inherited it, so a case certainly hasn't been made (consistently) for the early dismissal approach.
    Spot on. No way our owners will make a decision at this point. They'll need to see more to be absolutely certain of the next move. Right now, sacking a manager after six weeks would probably be more damaging to the club's reputation and finances than sticking with him. There's still a chance he'll turn this run around.

    We need calm heads right now, not emotional ones. Our current failings aren't down to one man. Yes, he might not be the right coach to lead us forward long term, but sacking him won't instantly solve the recruitment blunders and clear issues we have in the squad. It will cause more upheaval and instability, however. I'd give him more time. We're aren't going up or down this season, so there's no reason to rush into hasty decisions.

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