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Thread: The Bamford vs Joseph Conundrum.

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    In a similar "modern football is rubbish" throbbing vein, there seem to have been a lot of comedy goals scored when teams insist on playing pointless (and seemingly endless) tippy tappy with their goalkeepers who ultimately get closed down by opposition forwards only to see the ball bounce off the latter into an open net.

    Rubbish goals. Classic FAFO.

    Should. Never. Happen.

    Going forward? Mix it up. Occasionally shoot from distance and, when you do, immeditely follow up to see if there are any scraps to feed on.

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    Not necessarily saying it’s rubbish but a lot more pre programmed tactics/moves and less risk.

    Would be interesting to see turnover stats comparing average turnovers in the 1980s to the current decade - suspect there is a stark difference.

    The likes of Tony Currie, Zico, Le Tissier eh might not have the freedom to be off the cuff and develop in the modern game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgoner View Post
    In a similar "modern football is rubbish" throbbing vein, there seem to have been a lot of comedy goals scored when teams insist on playing pointless (and seemingly endless) tippy tappy with their goalkeepers who ultimately get closed down by opposition forwards only to see the ball bounce off the latter into an open net.

    Rubbish goals. Classic FAFO.

    Should. Never. Happen.

    Going forward? Mix it up. Occasionally shoot from distance and, when you do, immeditely follow up to see if there are any scraps to feed on.
    Example of the "comedy goals", Calvert Lewin last weekend, keep thinks he's a latter day Messi, just ends up looking messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    Example of the "comedy goals", Calvert Lewin last weekend, keep thinks he's a latter day Messi, just ends up looking messy.
    And they lose 1-0…

    I find myself sighing whenever I see teams pass around the back for no obvious reason.

    I’m sure it (probably) works for the very best teams, but they are few and far between and, well, I just find it annoying even when it does.

    Grumpy old git. Out.

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    Just seems to waste a majority of the game time. And even worse when you are trailing! No doubt it is to draw opposition players out of positionlike chess...which it rarely seems to do I'll add!...and also to drain them of energy shutting down. And that doesn't seem to work much either, as the opposition often score on the counter. 😕

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    Bamford was poor again tonight , as were a few others , but there was an opportunity tonight where I though he was just gonna life it over the keeper but he decided to go wide of him and put in a dreadful cross.

    Needs dropping for Blackburn game.

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    Rutter was worse than Bamford. He's had several shocking performances. Gives the ball away needlessly too often
    Wrong decision making too often. But does bring that maverick ability to change things.

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    Gnonto for James, Robert’s for gray, anyone for bamford

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    Quote Originally Posted by norfolk white View Post
    Gnonto for James, Robert’s for gray, anyone for bamford
    If only Lily Savage was still with us, she would do better than Barndoor.

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    I heard a pretty reasonable argument for sticking with Bamford at this stage of the season.

    Had Joseph been given starts a few months ago (as a lot were calling for) then fine but at this late stage of the season with so much on the line it would put huge additional pressure on his shoulders.

    Not sure if I fully agree as Joseph seems raring to go but it would also point to why Farke’s way of bringing players through causes that issue - ur if he had blooded him earlier and more regularly it would t be a concern.

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