O/T:- Election

[slack_pie]

Vote Scoffham.

[jonnyt1]

I think we all know Government needs some reform. The problem we have is that both Labour and the Conservatives are both soft left with more radical wings.

[slack_pie]

I think we all know Government needs some reform. The problem we have is that both Labour and the Conservatives are both soft left with more radical wings.

Yeah, people have become jaded. Westminster is a breeding ground for incompetence and corruption. The same old career politicians squabbling over this or that in an attempt to score points. None of them would last a year in the private sector, where innovation and efficiency are necessary to survive. The entire public sector is wasteful and inefficient. Nothing works properly.

Can't vote for the Tories because they're a bunch of ****s.
Can't vote Labour because their instinct is to make government bigger, which isn't a great idea when the people that comprise the government are invariably incompetent.

[Bohinen]

I think we all know Government needs some reform. The problem we have is that both Labour and the Conservatives are both soft left with more radical wings.

Only on here would you see the Tories described as soft left. If Attila the Hun were a Notts fan, he would post on NCM.

I will vote Labour, not with any great enthusiasm but because we've had the worst government in our history over the last few years and they need to go. Literally anyone would be better, and I suspect the 'none of the above' people are former Tories who feel let down by them.

[magicianpie]

I'd bite your hand off if you were to offer sharia law.

As long as there are no women present at stonings.

[Woodypie]

Anyone disillusioned with Westminster politics (as I certainly am) should just ignore what the parties are promising and vote for a good local candidate who you think will represent your area the best.

I know it sounds obvious, but as an example: I know 2 current Labour candidates personally, both standing in this election. 1 is a Notts fan standing in a Nottingham seat who I know cares deeply about local issues... whereas the other is from London and has been parachuted into a seat in Staffordshire to further their career and tow the party line. The first I would vote for, the second I most certainly would not. I am still undecided but my vote will entirely be based on the strength of the candidates, as I think the best way to improve the country is to get rid of the careerist Westminster bubble politicians and replace them with decent people who will actually represent and fight for their constituents - whatever their party.

In the interest of balance, Ed Davey told me that he is a Notts fan. I wouldn't vote for the Lib Dems though.

[DomdomPie]

In the interest of balance, Ed Davey told me that he is a Notts fan. I wouldn't vote for the Lib Dems though.

Ha ha it was the caring about local issues etc. that would make me vote for them... but I didn't know that about Ed Davey!

[Lullapie]

In the interest of balance, Ed Davey told me that he is a Notts fan. I wouldn't vote for the Lib Dems though.

So was Harold Shipman.

[slack_pie]

For anyone interested, this is a pretty cool tool for understanding your political views. It's great that it plots political ideologies on a four-way spectrum, not just left-right but also authoritarian-libertarian.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

I take this test every year or two. It's interesting to see how my political views have changed over time. It also helps people who have been in one camp or another their entire lives (and vote accordingly by default) see which party represents them best. You can see where the parties sat on the compass during the last election here (can't find a more recent version):

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019

[Elite_Pie]

For anyone interested, this is a pretty cool tool for understanding your political views. It's great that it plots political ideologies on a four-way spectrum, not just left-right but also authoritarian-libertarian.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Interesting, I took the test and to my surprise came very close to the centre but slightly north-west in the pink box. That apparently makes me a mild leftist authoritarian. I would however have liked a 'neither agree or disagree' box because some answers were very borderline.

I take this test every year or two. It's interesting to see how my political views have changed over time.

My circumstances have changed quite a bit over time, but my political beliefs haven't changed at all. My beginnings could be described as humble, I was the eldest of five kids born on a council estate and had the piss taken out of me at school because I lived in a council house and we didn't have a car. I was brought up to work for it if you want something, and did just that. My circumstances now suggest that I should have become be a typical Tory voter, but hell will freeze over before that happens.