What's the fcking point?

[ex_pat_magpie]

The actions of the Glazers are what the rules were originally meant to control.

They have got out of control since. (both the Glazers and the rules)

[Ragatino]

Gonna have to disagree with the vast majority in a way.

While it benefits certain clubs in the Prem, this wasn’t their doing.

FFP was implemented in 2009 by UEFA… and it was inevitable that it would apply to the Prem soon after (about 2 years it took)

That was 1 year after Chelsea reached a CL final while being bankrolled by abrahmovich and also a 1 year after Mansour bought City.

This wasn’t something that Prem clubs put in place, this was (in my opinion at least) something that was put in place to stop Premier league teams dominating European football.

We were already the cream of the crop on sky, with the biggest tv deals in Europe, so clubs in Europe were petrified we’d see more and more investment coming in (like Mansour) to the most entertaining league, which would put a stranglehold on Champions league football.

I look at teams like Madrid, Barca, Inter, Bayern, and the likes, lobbying UEFA for a means to restrict investment in the Prem, not domestic teams.

Just my take on it anyway.

Yeah you're pretty much correct about everything however, Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal were also in the conversation with Madrid, Barca, Inter, Bayern, and the likes, lobbying UEFA.

The regular contenders in the UCL had creamed the profits and didn't want to lose their advantages of the 'closed shop' the all enjoyed.

The very same people who proposed the Super League.

Not 'European Super League'. Super League.

The idea was for the member clubs to play each other all over the world. Yes there would be fixtures at their home grounds for half the season but the other half would see fixtures like Real Madrid v Liverpool in Toyko or Juve v Barcelona in Moscow and so on.

Remember they didn't want to 'leave the EPL', they wanted to control 100% of it.
They wanted to have controlling votes on who could acquire other clubs in the leagues they left. the Glazers, FSG, Levy et al would be able to vito the purchase of NUFC by the PiF. Can you imagine that level of arrogance?

The famous old European football leagues would all become essentially the same as 'The Minor Leagues' (the minors for those familiar with US sports) of the USA. Essentially feeder leagues for the Super League clubs.

Vast majority of sponsorship would go to the Super League, budgets and revenue streams would be unmatchable by domestic competing clubs.

With the 'Founding clubs' never being relegated they would ensure and ringfence their revenue stream. They threw a bone to the bottom 4 places out the the newly formed 'Minors' to fight it out for scraps. Allowing the fat pigs to pick off the top talent at the end of the season as those 4 clubs would be replaced with the next 4 who fought tooth and nail to get one season in the meat grinder.

They showed their colour by going public in the middle of the Pandemic. They offered a massive bribe to the rest of the Premier League and EFL teams when they knew the clubs were most desperate for money.

I am not shocked nor surprised that ZERO PUNISHMENT WAS HANDED OUT TO THEM for what they attempted to do.

What the supporters trusts need to do is combine to lobby the government to have Football clubs, stadium and the rules of where gams can be played ring fenced by law and give some sort of 'National Trust' protections like listed buildings.

The game is our heritage and our way of life. Even League average gates is 6000+.

With a single law being past that stated " all football clubs must play their home fixtures at their home stadium or a stadium of near proximity in times of development where matches are not possible to be played on home soil. "

This could be also rolled out across the EU ending any and all movement of matches to the USA or else where.

[Ragatino]

The actions of the Glazers are what the rules were originally meant to control.

They have got out of control since. (both the Glazers and the rules)

The leverages buy out of Man United was not a direct consideration of the rules. It was an still is to this day a completely legal and acceptable business practice in accordance with the PSR guidelines.

PSR does not consider debt at all when looking at accounts. They look at profit and loss over a rolling 3 yr period.

The Glazers service the debt payments of the $800m loan (now $1.1 they took out to purchase the club. The don't miss payments so they don't default on the loan. If they had a few very bad years in terms of revenue, sponsors walked away as their owner were seen to be using sweatshops to manufacture cheap sportswear and other sports related tat & brands walked away from them then we'd see them start to struggle.

Until they completely collapse and spend 4-5 yrs in the lower half of the Prem/flirt with relegation they'll continue to be able to manipulate the league due to their global brand strength. Rat-c**t said as much in an interview.

Him pusing 80 and looking like a dead dogs ballsack, he'll be dead soon thou and we'll see what the rest of the Enios board want to do with this association to the club.