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Thread: Only fan- power will get rid of Evans

  1. #31
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    I have my views like others, Tony Stewart is a businessman, not much knowledge on the ups &
    downs of football, same with Paul Douglas.
    So to me Paul Douglas pulling a wage out of the club, where as there could be another appointed
    with football knowledge.

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    Stewart and Douglas have now been involved in football for over a decade. How much more knowledge of 'the ups and downs of football' do they need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Stewart and Douglas have now been involved in football for over a decade. How much more knowledge of 'the ups and downs of football' do they need?
    Granted, but they've been involved with one club, they have clearly found a glass ceiling in the division above, and that ceiling lowers over time as clubs evolve. I'm not here to advocate a revolution, but I don't think it would be excessive to suggest the club would be better off bringing in someone who's done the miles and had exposure to different cultures. (I also have no idea how much time is spent on light bulbs vs football from TS, or if PD sees limits to his autonomy because TS may perceive him to have limitations)

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    What do you mean by 'done the miles and had exposure to different cultures'? That smells of word salad/management speak.

    As for glass ceilings, I would venture that comes down to financial resources and an unwillingness to run up unsustainable levels of debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    What do you mean by 'done the miles and had exposure to different cultures'? That smells of word salad/management speak.

    As for glass ceilings, I would venture that comes down to financial resources and an unwillingness to run up unsustainable levels of debt.
    Obviously you know what I mean but yes, maybe work mode kicked in.

    I don't disagree that throwing money at the club would (to some extent) take some of the advantages away from 'bigger' clubs. Not throwing money at the club doesn't mean what is put in gets spent in the right ways though. Our training facilities have come to light as being problematic, the fabled ground extension is subject to endless goalpost shifting, the youth academy has output issues, and recruitment/retention/release make us look like we're in it for the proverbial Chinese takeaway.

    We're not in worrying debt, but we're not exactly setting ourselves up to keep pace or progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Stewart and Douglas have now been involved in football for over a decade. How much more knowledge of 'the ups and downs of football' do they need?
    Each year before the season ticket roll out,we hear from TS that we have learnt from the mistakes previously made.However,it's anything but that in reality.This club has had no business plan since we moved in to the NYS.Appointing SE could be the last straw for TS.We have sold the silver but not reinvested and the coaching seems non existent.It needs a cleen sweep from top to bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Each year before the season ticket roll out,we hear from TS that we have learnt from the mistakes previously made.However,it's anything but that in reality.This club has had no business plan since we moved in to the NYS.Appointing SE could be the last straw for TS.We have sold the silver but not reinvested and the coaching seems non existent.It needs a cleen sweep from top to bottom.
    I refer to my comments above. There's a clear business plan, which is to keep the club financially secure and to achieve such success as is possible whilst doing so.

    The club may have sold players, but the accounts clearly demonstrate that such income as has been achieved by that has been used to reduce the annual loss.

    As for Stewart's comments, I think it's a bit of an urban myth to suggest that he makes the lessons learnt comments every year, but if he does, maybe he's a slow learner (like many football supporters) and hasn't worked out that success on the pitch is ultimately largely determined by how much money there is to be spent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I refer to my comments above. There's a clear business plan, which is to keep the club financially secure and to achieve such success as is possible whilst doing so.

    The club may have sold players, but the accounts clearly demonstrate that such income as has been achieved by that has been used to reduce the annual loss.

    As for Stewart's comments, I think it's a bit of an urban myth to suggest that he makes the lessons learnt comments every year, but if he does, maybe he's a slow learner (like many football supporters) and hasn't worked out that success on the pitch is ultimately largely determined by how much money there is to be spent.
    A good coach would help because I can’t see anything in this team but launch it up & hope.

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    A good coach would help because I can’t see anything in this team but launch it up & hope.
    Thats because you dont want to see anything good. Since SE returned you and a lot of the clique on here have taken every opportunity to have a go. We get it - you dont like Evans but I'd say the vast majority are happy with his return. He has a proven track record - both with us and elsewhere. If you can name a better proposition that we could actually attract to the club, then lets hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWestCorner View Post
    Thats because you dont want to see anything good. Since SE returned you and a lot of the clique on here have taken every opportunity to have a go. We get it - you dont like Evans but I'd say the vast majority are happy with his return. He has a proven track record - both with us and elsewhere. If you can name a better proposition that we could actually attract to the club, then lets hear it.
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