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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    I agree it should be ring fenced and probably be handed over in bulk in the close season, or January window, but either way if it goes into the club it?s used for the benefit of the club, no one will be getting a wage rise or bonus through it.
    It should have been set up after admin 2 to buy back the ground, that?s only my opinion
    Agree with all of that.

    The original offer to JN of a foundation type fund raiser included ring fencing money specifically for a stadium buy back. But because those funds were not to be held by DFC he wasn't interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    I agree it should be ring fenced and probably be handed over in bulk in the close season, or January window, but either way if it goes into the club it?s used for the benefit of the club, no one will be getting a wage rise or bonus through it.
    It should have been set up after admin 2 to buy back the ground, that?s only my opinion
    It was mentioned at a Dee4life AGM in 2022 that the Dee4life secretary spent a year of his time in 2014-15 preparing a business case for the buyback of Dens Park based on a purchase price of ?750k.
    He had managed to obtain two donations totalling ?250k, a bank loan of ?250k was being arranged and fundraising by Dundee FC supporters would raise the final ?250k.
    Sadly Bill Colvin who was keen on the buy back of Dens Park resigned as Chairman.
    The Dee4life Secretary made his business case presentation to John Nelms and Ian Crichton in Dens Park.
    Nelms refused to agree to his business case but he had the cheek to ask the Dee4life Secretary to leave his business case so that Nelms could study it in detail.
    The Dee4life Secretary refused and that was the end of the buyback of Dens Park which FPS had promised to do when they purchased a majority shareholding in Dundee Football Club Limited.
    Finally. I honestly believe that Dundee Football Club would be a lot better run if Scot Gardner had remained as Chief Executive and John Nelms remained as Director of the Dundee Football Club Football Academy which he was appointed to do when he arrived lock, stock and barrel at the beginning of September 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    I agree it should be ring fenced and probably be handed over in bulk in the close season, or January window, but either way if it goes into the club it?s used for the benefit of the club, no one will be getting a wage rise or bonus through it.
    It should have been set up after admin 2 to buy back the ground, that?s only my opinion
    It was mentioned at a Dee4life AGM in 2022 that the Dee4life secretary spent a year of his time in 2014-15 preparing a business case for the buyback of Dens Park based on a purchase price of ?750k.
    He had managed to obtain two donations totalling ?250k, a bank loan of ?250k was being arranged and fundraising by Dundee FC supporters would raise the final ?250k.
    Sadly Bill Colvin who was keen on the buy back of Dens Park resigned as Chairman.
    The Dee4life Secretary made his business case presentation to John Nelms and Ian Crichton in Dens Park.
    Nelms refused to agree to his business case but he had the cheek to ask the Dee4life Secretary to leave his business case so that Nelms could study it in detail.
    The Dee4life Secretary refused and that was the end of the buyback of Dens Park which FPS had promised to do when they purchased a majority shareholding in Dundee Football Club Limited.
    Finally. I honestly believe that Dundee Football Club would be a lot better run if Scot Gardner had remained as Chief Executive and John Nelms remained as Director of the Dundee Football Club Football Academy which he was appointed to do when he arrived lock, stock and barrel at the beginning of September 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    It was mentioned at a Dee4life AGM in 2022 that the Dee4life secretary spent a year of his time in 2014-15 preparing a business case for the buyback of Dens Park based on a purchase price of ?750k.
    He had managed to obtain two donations totalling ?250k, a bank loan of ?250k was being arranged and fundraising by Dundee FC supporters would raise the final ?250k.
    Sadly Bill Colvin who was keen on the buy back of Dens Park resigned as Chairman.
    The Dee4life Secretary made his business case presentation to John Nelms and Ian Crichton in Dens Park.
    Nelms refused to agree to his business case but he had the cheek to ask the Dee4life Secretary to leave his business case so that Nelms could study it in detail.
    The Dee4life Secretary refused and that was the end of the buyback of Dens Park which FPS had promised to do when they purchased a majority shareholding in Dundee Football Club Limited.
    Finally. I honestly believe that Dundee Football Club would be a lot better run if Scot Gardner had remained as Chief Executive and John Nelms remained as Director of the Dundee Football Club Football Academy which he was appointed to do when he arrived lock, stock and barrel at the beginning of September 2013.
    You really must hate Nelms more than anyone on the board could imagine, better off keeping Scott Gardner, I?ve heard it all now

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    You really must hate Nelms more than anyone on the board could imagine, better off keeping Scott Gardner, I?ve heard it all now
    At least Scot Gardiner had previous experience of working in a Scottish Professional Football (Soccer) Club whilst Nelms had no previous experience of doing so.
    There is a big difference between running a kiddies soccer coaching club in Austin, Texas where parents pay for their children to learn how to play soccer and being Chief Executive/Managing Director of a Professional Soccer Club in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Agree with all of that.

    The original offer to JN of a foundation type fund raiser included ring fencing money specifically for a stadium buy back. But because those funds were not to be held by DFC he wasn't interested.
    I remember hearing at a Dee4life board of directors meeting that Nelms did not want Dundee supporters handing over their money for a fundraising scheme towards buying back Dens Park as Nelms wanted Dundee supporters to hand over their money to Dundee Football Club.
    If Nelms still has that plan then he has to communicate and speak with all groups of Dundee supporters not his chosen few DFC supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Agree with all of that.

    The original offer to JN of a foundation type fund raiser included ring fencing money specifically for a stadium buy back. But because those funds were not to be held by DFC he wasn't interested.
    I remember hearing at a Dee4life board of directors meeting that Nelms did not want Dundee supporters handing over their money for a fundraising scheme towards buying back Dens Park as Nelms wanted Dundee supporters to hand over their money to Dundee Football Club.
    If Nelms still has that plan then he has to communicate and speak with all groups of Dundee supporters not his chosen few DFC supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I honestly believe that Dundee Football Club would be a lot better run if Scot Gardner had remained as Chief Executive
    Too far Islay

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I remember hearing at a Dee4life board of directors meeting that Nelms did not want Dundee supporters handing over their money for a fundraising scheme towards buying back Dens Park as Nelms wanted Dundee supporters to hand over their money to Dundee Football Club.
    If Nelms still has that plan then he has to communicate and speak with all groups of Dundee supporters not his chosen few DFC supporters.
    He believes that if Dundee FC supporters have spare cash they should give it to him to spend as he pleases.

    He lives on planet Ga Ga if he believes Dundee fans would just hand him their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    He believes that if Dundee FC supporters have spare cash they should give it to him to spend as he pleases.

    He lives on planet Ga Ga if he believes Dundee fans would just hand him their money.
    Personally don’t think Nelmsy resides on Planet Ga Ga. But I think Doug does. Scott Gardner, I’ve heard it all now.

    It’s all hearsay, and hatred. Tim Keyes withdrawing from DFC because of an email from a well known troublemaker. FFS

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