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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    According to IPSO statistics, NO. But according to Swaleconomia YES, corroborated naturally by rA. However neither has provided any credible evidence of this. It may be true but it could be fabrication or regurgitated from online "sources". I actually don't know. I did ask Swale for source of the 100 and was referred to IPSO which clearly wasn't the source. I too would like to see evidence as opposed to heresay/anecdotal .....

    The difficulty in getting at truth of the matter may well be retractions/corrections that never resulted in formal complaints and were settled "out of court". In which case I doubt there is any record short of some nerd trawling through all back copies
    In point of fact, you were advised to do your own research, I mentioned IPSO as they were the errors that reached IPSO, most media try to avoid that and print corrections. But certain media and the telegraph and the Mail are infamous for doing this, though I'm sure its not a practice confined to those two alone, print a story with a headling which they know full well to be inaccurate, sometimes false and at best misleading and then print a correction a few days later at the bottom of an inside page usually.

    They do this, because they are fully aware that it will be the original headline and false information that most people will remember and the correction will be seen by very few and hardly register.

    Now before you make some stupid observation about an obsession with the right wing media, I know that The Times, the BBC, The Mirror make errors and have to print corrections, but they don't as far I have seen adopt the strategy described above.

    The fact that over the same period, the BBC made 33 corrections and the Telegraph 114, suggests the telegraph is not the most accurate of publications, yet is a much simpler and smaller news organisation than the BBC is.

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    There you go MA - Google it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    There you go MA - Google it
    Well, if you searched just a little bit - instead of making pointless personal attacks - you’d discover that the DT made 80 clarifications and corrections between the beginning of this year and 5/11/25. You’ll find all the details if you bother to look. Kind of challenges their credibility in terms of attacking the BBC - who I think (not certain) - made 33.

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    Sorry I'm a little confused here, is it The Daily Telegraph of the BBC that's being sued by Trump for £1bn of public funds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Sorry I'm a little confused here, is it The Daily Telegraph of the BBC that's being sued by Trump for £1bn of public funds?
    It's the BBC. However, it's the Telegraph that is having a go at the BBC for the editing of the Trump word salad when they themselves have published more than 100 corrections...

    Pot, Kettle, Black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Sorry I'm a little confused here, is it The Daily Telegraph of the BBC that's being sued by Trump for £1bn of public funds?
    Neither. Although, as I’m sure you’re fully aware, it’s the BBC that Trump is THREATENING to sue. Then again he makes lots of threats.

    Personally I wish he, and many other politicians of various persuasions, would get on with the business of improving peoples’ lives rather than emulating a very poor soap opera with a cast full of narcissists.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 13-11-2025 at 04:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Neither. Although, as I?m sure you?re fully aware, it?s the BBC that Trump is THREATENING to sue. Then again he makes lots of threats.

    Personally I wish he, and many other politicians of various persuasions, would get on with the business of improving peoples? lives rather than emulating a very poor soap opera with a cast full of narcissists.
    Agreed, including the most recent fubar emanating from Number 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    There you go MA - Google it
    Indeed and if you could just google Telegraph Corrections, the Newspaper itself lists its corrections.

    But as it appears you are either not able to do this, or refuse to do so because it would put an end to your constant and rather tiresome attempts to discredit my basic point, I've copied and pasted some of those corrections from the Telegraph website.

    Note INovember 11, 2025

    An article ‘Police force accused of LGBT bias’ (Nov,8) stated in a picture caption that ‘Officers from the Wiltshire force took part in Swindon’s Pride parade in the summer’ this was incorrect. We are happy to correct the record.

    November 5, 2025

    An article “Reeves to ban luxury cars for benefit claimants” (Nov, 2) stated that those who receive the higher rate of PIP, worth £187.45 per week, can agree to send the money to Motability instead. The scheme in fact allows people on the highest rate of mobility PIP, worth £77.05 per week, to use their mobility payments to lease a car. We are happy to correct the record.

    November 3, 2025

    An article “First-cousin marriage has ‘benefits’, says NHS guidance despite birth defect risk” (Sept, 28) reported that NHS guidance had highlighted the benefits of first cousin marriage. The NHS document concerned was in fact an article published for informational or educational purposes. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 25, 2025

    An article “Fewer than one in five shoplifting cases solved” (Oct,24) incorrectly stated the proportion of shoplifting offences resulting in a charge had fallen on the previous year. In fact, the proportion increased on the previous year, but fell to 18 per cent between April and June, down from 19.7 per cent in the same quarter of the previous year. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 24, 2025

    An article ‘Britain could get more anti-Semitic than Arab states’ (Oct, 19), stated in the standfirst that ‘Hamas may have killed more Palestinians since the ceasefire than Israel in the whole war’ which was incorrect. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 22, 2025

    An article ‘British trader uses post-Brexit loophole to relocate to France and bypasses UK creditors’ (Dec, 1) suggested that Mr Peter Magurran had been accused of illegally shutting down his UK-registered company, Sinke Plumbing. We wish to clarify that the closure of Sinke Plumbing was triggered by Companies House issuing a compulsory strike off and not as a result of any application by Mr Magurran to dissolve his company. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 21, 2025

    An article ‘German police investigate author over tweets criticising Netanyahu’ (Oct, 19) reported that Mr Todenhöfer had been arrested and that his home had been raided. This was incorrect. Mr Todenhofer was not arrested and whilst the court issued an order to search his apartment, office, car, as well as to confiscate electronic devices these actions have not yet been carried out. The article has been amended and we are happy to correct the record.

    An article “Cummings: China stole secrets in major hack” (Oct, 16) referred to a data security breach. We have been asked to make clear that the unnamed data storage company subject of the alleged breach is not Global Switch.

    October 20, 2025

    An article “‘Harry Pothole’: TV crew spells end to blight” (Oct,15) reported that a TV crew had repaired potholes in roads in Lustleigh, Devon. This was incorrect. The production company had in fact funded repairs to a footpath. We are happy to correct the record.

    An article “Legal battle delays Reeves’s bond market growth push” (Oct,18) stated Ediphy’s turnover as being £541 last year. In fact, this was the 2023 figure. Its turnover figure last year was £744,333 . We are happy to correct the record

    October 17, 2025

    An article ‘Greta’s Gaza flotilla is nothing but a ship of fools’ (Sept, 27) stated that the convoy had been at sea for six weeks. At the time of publication it had not been at sea for this period of time. We are happy to correct the record. tv times

    October 16, 2025

    An article ‘Tennis has a padel problem - and LTA is stuck in the middle’ (October, 15) made reference to Padel Hub which has asked us to make clear that the business model and pricing structure examples given in the article are not an accurate representation of its business model and pricing structure. We are happy to correct the record.

    The headlines to the articles ‘BBC to cut evening TV news to save money’ and ‘BBC to slash evening TV news in fresh spending cuts’ (Oct, 16) were inaccurate. Requested changes to the BBC’s operating licence concerned current affairs programming, not news. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 15, 2025

    An article “Farage pledges to expel hundreds of thousands of migrants” /”We will stop this scam on the British people” (Sept, 21) stated the cost of 800,000 “Boriswave” migrants gaining ILR will be at least £234 billion during their lifetimes. This figure was from a third party organisation which has confirmed it is disputed and will be updated. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 14, 2025

    An article ‘Britain paying highest electricity prices in the world for second year running’ (Sept, 30) and its headline have been amended to reflect the revision of the official data relied upon regarding electricity prices which showed Britain was second to Slovakia in 2023. It was incorrect to state it was paying the highest electricity prices for the second year running. We are happy to correct the record.

    An article ‘Dirty Dancing Star’s gripe over trained talent’ (Oct 6) reported that a Strictly Come-Dancing professional had criticised the BBC for hiring celebrities with dance experience. In fact, Nadiya Bychkova was suggesting that celebrities with previous dance experience have an advantage over their rivals. We are happy to correct the record.

    October 7, 2025

    An article “National Gallery sells leather benches over safety fears” reported the National Gallery’s leather benches were from the Victorian era. This was inaccurate, the benches date from the late twentieth century.

    September 30, 2025

    An article “We’re running out of time to stop post-Covid mass migration from becoming permanent” (Sept, 12) stated that in 2022-23 nearly three quarters of immigrants on a “skilled worker” visa earned below the average UK salary. The research the author was referring to looked at how many visas were issued in 2022-23 for different job types on skilled worker routes and compared them with salary data for those occupations. The article therefore should have read that they were likely to be earning below the average UK salary. We are happy to correct the record.

    September 23, 2025

    Sergei Chernikov – apology

    An article ‘Trump official who shut down counter-Russia agency has links to Kremlin’ (June, 3) erroneously stated that Mr Sergei Chernikov – and by association, his niece Ms Yulia Kirillova – had current ties to the Kremlin and to President Putin personally. This is false. In fact, neither Mr Chernikov nor Yulia Kirillova has any association with the Kremlin or President Putin. Mr Chernikov has lived away from Russia since 2008 and has not returned since 2020. It was also incorrect to state that Mr Chernikov once served as Deputy Governor of the Nenets region in Siberia, or that he received a personal note of thanks from Mr Putin for supporting his electoral victory in the 2000 election campaign. The article also omitted certain publicly available relevant facts, including that President Putin publicly condemned the key shareholders of Bashkir Soda Company (in which Mr. Chernikov held shares) prior to its expropriation. We apologise to Mr Chernikov, acknowledge the reputational harm caused and are happy to set the record straight.

    September 16, 2025

    The original standfirst, which appeared under the headline of this article - ‘Taxpayer-funded company helps foreign artists secure visas for £100’ - reported that 948,000 creatives had arrived in Britain on a ‘global talent visa’ by the end of 2024. This was inaccurate. As correctly reported in the article the figure of 948,000 refers to the total number of legal arrivals into the UK during that period, to which the global talent visa contributes.

    September 01, 2025

    An article “Labour-led council’s speed bumps ‘too short’ after locals campaigned for them for years” (Aug, 31) wrongly attributed the decision in respect of speed bumps to a ‘Labour - led council’. In fact Norfolk County Council, which is Tory-led, is responsible for roads in Norwich. We are happy to correct the record.

    September 01, 2025

    An article “Epping hotel judge ran socialist think tank” (Aug, 30) referred to Lord Justice Bean but was incorrectly illustrated with a picture of Mr Justice Eyre. We apologise for this error and are happy to correct the record.

    August 26, 2025

    An article “This jewellers’ new chief is overhauling strategy and it’s starting to pay off” (Aug,21) stated that Mr Ratner called Ratners jewellery ‘total crap’. He was in fact describing another of its products, not jewellery. We are happy to correct the record.


    August 15, 2025

    An article ‘Ex-Harvard professor says trans rights are ‘social contagion’ and its headline have been amended to reflect that when Prof Doyle spoke of a ‘social contagion’ he was referring not to trans rights as previously reported but the surge in the number of children presenting as transgender. We are happy to correct the record.

    I've not cherry picked these in anyway, just copied the latest that appear, I haven't even read them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    No argument from me, but when you have the POTUS constantly attacking the media and filing numerous court cases, Labour squabbling between themselves and two of the opposition parties doing nothing other than constantly trying to discredit and undermine the Government there seems to be little hope.
    If, as some (including me to some extent) think, ?dark forces? are inciting the unrest, they are doing a bloody good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    No argument from me, but when you have the POTUS constantly attacking the media and filing numerous court cases, Labour squabbling between themselves and two of the opposition parties doing nothing other than constantly trying to discredit and undermine the Government there seems to be little hope.
    I'm not sure I can remember a time when opposition parties were not constantly trying to discredit and undermine the Government. It's sort of their job isn't it

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