O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[magpie_mania]

Trump was pro-vaccine so maybe they would have done had he won. Not really the point though is it. Biden thought 220,000 deaths on a presidents watch was completely unacceptable, I wonder what his total will be when he stands down (or falls over).

Why is it that these must be people who died from Covid, yet when it suits the argument they die with Covid?

[cher1]

A new report published today (not yet peer reviewed) is showing that having a previous bout of covid does not prevent reinfection with Omicron, and might offer only c 19% protection. Immunity following a booster looks to be somewhere between 55 and 80%

Also there's some anecdotal evidence coming out of SA that reinfections seem to be mostly after people have previously had the Delta variant, and reinfections after having contracted the earlier strain appear to be less common. Might turn out to be nothing, but it is interesting.

[BanjoPie]

Fao UTM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...e-59699891.amp

[Notts78]

Fao UTM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...e-59699891.amp

You are pissing in to a hurricane. He won’t change his mind and that’s his choice.

[upthemaggies]

You are pissing in to a hurricane. He won’t change his mind and that’s his choice.

I can change my mind, but as it's undisputable now that vaxxed catch, spread and get ill, I can't see how this will end well unless the virus weakens to the point it's not a problem anymore and there are no long term health issues created by the vax.

The official statistics say unvaxxed were accounting for 66% of hospitalisations recently, that will come down with boosters, then go back up again. My position is a short term leaky solution will be a long term disaster.

[upthemaggies]

The South African equivalent of the BBC is the state broadcaster SABC

You can compare the levels of concern, panic and fear with the BBC via the news section here.....

https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/

[Maggie's Farm]

I can change my mind

the ones that worry me at this point are those who are SURE they know all about this pandemic and how it's going to pan out.

a short term leaky solution will be a long term disaster.

unconvinced by this. 2 things about leaky lifeboats, for example:

- if they're all you've got they're all you've got
- if they can stay afloat long enough to get you to better solutions then they were good enough

[upthemaggies]

the ones that worry me at this point are those who are SURE they know all about this pandemic and how it's going to pan out.

Ditto with the experimental vaccine.

As for the lifeboat, it's a fair analogy for those at high risk.

[Maggie's Farm]

Ditto with the experimental vaccine.

Are there still people who believe the world's govts and health bods should have left covid run free for a few years while further tests were run?

Are you also calling the first 8.5 billion doses of the polio vaccine experimental?

As for the lifeboat, it's a fair analogy

ftfy

[keldsyke]

The South African equivalent of the BBC is the state broadcaster SABC

You can compare the levels of concern, panic and fear with the BBC via the news section here.....

https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/

Can you give it a rest with the preaching please? We all know where you stand but these constant propaganda posts are now bordering on the ridiculous.

Get off your computer or whatever and get some fresh air! Or can the mod move the thread alongside the ‘Handbags’ thread please?