O/T Disgrace Cummings

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

All smoke and mirrors to fool the public, just like Harold Wilson’s pipe

[Scum-Triumphant]

I think it’s a bit cheeky. Is it 400+ replies of party politics. Is it feck.

Some of you would explode if one of them shagged a prostitute in a Chelsea kit. That was what was expected when politics was cool.

You’re all reaching. And you’re all getting precious about nowt. Both sides.

[caytonmiller]

As you know Kerr I'm not one of your bashing buddies though can I ask. You have been driving since 1983. In all that time have you driven whilst being ill (possibly) or whilst you suspected yourself of carrying a deadly virus? (Prob not)

[Scum-Triumphant]

As you know Kerr I'm not one of your bashing buddies though can I ask. You have been driving since 1983. In all that time have you driven whilst being ill (possibly) or whilst you suspected yourself of carrying a deadly virus? (Prob not)

Since 1983? That’s some journey. You’ll catch voyager up soon.

[WanChaiMiller]

I will look out for it, but fear that our understanding of the word deal will be somewhat different.

Johnsons' various addresses to the nation were made on tv direct to each individual member of the public (or family group). There was no discussion across society, no public meetings with a show of hands for support or public vote of collective approval.

As I see it, the deal Johnson brockered was with each individual member of the public. The thoughts we were asked to consider was 1. do I trust him (do I believe what he is saying is true) 2. If so, am I prepared to put in place the measures he proposed.*

It was delivered as a request and not a demand with the threat of retribution. I see it was more an agreement between the 2 parties based on mutual trust and understanding.* The public, by and large, took Johnson on his word and applied those regulations for the greater good. A few days later, Sunak turned up with a huge wad of cash and sealed the deal.*

For me, that is the true essence of a deal. Perfectly executed, shows the brilliance of Cummings; and you didnt even realise its what happened.*

These philosophies (or series of deals) are played out every day and form the basis of our existence in work relationships, business agreements, sports team player coach relationships, parent/child relationships. Much of its implied, sometimes outlined, often used as motivation. But, there needs to be an underlaying principle of trust and a fair trade (a fair trade off).

How do you see it?

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

You may think that the fake solicitor stuff is childish Wrinkly but if he is posing as a solicitor on here he is actually breaking the law and it is a jailable offence. It is that serious. Why does he not just come out and say he is a solicitor etc then. Then we know that he is who he claims to be. We can trust his words. Why would he not answer a very simple question about it even if it was only to shut his detractors up for good. He tantalises us with words which suggest he is in the legal trade but doesn't admit to what he actually does. If he didn't want us to know he was in the legal trade why do this?

While ever he does not do this I think we can safely ignore his opinions on here. The mikemiller Kempo phoney makes a lot of sense.

Don't you think his opinions are very inconsistent? The smooth talking solicitor/ lawyer/ barrister is just a means to give what he says credibility even though, on examination, it is bull sh it.

Don't be fooled you are better than that...

By the way, if I was a solicitor etc I would happily admit it in order to tout for some work.

It does not make sense. The only reason why he does not admit to these things is that he knows it would be illegal to do it if he wasn't.

He’s never mentioned being a Solicitor/ Barrister/QC. He certainly has strong communication skills.
He could well be a Legal Assistant with a relevant Degree.
I don’t really care either way roly.
It’s only a certain few that do.
Touting for work on here ...really !!
Obsessive, take a chill pill roly..

Cummings ought to stay in the hope he screws up again.

[rolymiller]

He’s never mentioned being a Solicitor/ Barrister/QC. He certainly has strong communication skills.
He could well be a Legal Assistant with a relevant Degree.
I don’t really care either way roly.
It’s only a certain few that do.
Touting for work on here ...really !!
Obsessive, take a chill pill roly..

Cummings ought to stay in the hope he screws up again.

Not bothered mi sen Casper all i know is at least one person is seriously keeping tabs on what he is putting on here. (someone who knows legal matters much more than me). If he wants to get himself banged up thats up to him. My advice to him is to be careful what he puts on here. I hold no grudges at all.

[wrinkly]

You may think that the fake solicitor stuff is childish Wrinkly but if he is posing as a solicitor on here he is actually breaking the law and it is a jailable offence. It is that serious. Why does he not just come out and say he is a solicitor etc then. Then we know that he is who he claims to be. We can trust his words. Why would he not answer a very simple question about it even if it was only to shut his detractors up for good. He tantalises us with words which suggest he is in the legal trade but doesn't admit to what he actually does. If he didn't want us to know he was in the legal trade why do this?

While ever he does not do this I think we can safely ignore his opinions on here. The mikemiller Kempo phoney makes a lot of sense.

Don't you think his opinions are very inconsistent? The smooth talking solicitor/ lawyer/ barrister is just a means to give what he says credibility even though, on examination, it is bull sh it.

Don't be fooled you are better than that...

By the way, if I was a solicitor etc I would happily admit it in order to tout for some work.

It does not make sense. The only reason why he does not admit to these things is that he knows it would be illegal to do it if he wasn't.

"Don't be fooled you are better than that..." Wow - thanks Roly

Alas I am not worthy of your (not the least bit patronising ) praise . I am daft enough to believe that he is a legal type bod (but I also believe that Kempo is a retired doctor - how gullible am I?)
Not that I care either way.

I suspect that he is not providing the "proof" that some posters crave because he is, to some extent, enjoying the "game"

In fact, to further demonstrate how daft I am, I had assumed that most of his accusers actually believe that he is the genuine article but just enjoy baiting him. It was the mindlessly persistent nature of this baiting that I believed to be childish.
It honestly never occurred to me that sensible posters might be genuinely outraged that some phoney might be tarnishing the good name of the legal profession.

So there you are. I'm obviously not "better than that"

[rolymiller]

"Don't be fooled you are better than that..." Wow - thanks Roly

Alas I am not worthy of your (not the least bit patronising ) praise . I am daft enough to believe that he is a legal type bod (but I also believe that Kempo is a retired doctor - how gullible am I?)
Not that I care either way.

I suspect that he is not providing the "proof" that some posters crave because he is, to some extent, enjoying the "game"

In fact, to further demonstrate how daft I am, I had assumed that most of his accusers actually believe that he is the genuine article but just enjoy baiting him. It was the mindlessly persistent nature of this baiting that I believed to be childish.
It honestly never occurred to me that sensible posters might be genuinely outraged that some phoney might be tarnishing the good name of the legal profession.

So there you are. I'm obviously not "better than that"

Apologies if it came across that I was patronising you Wrinks. Clearly you can see through him with your comments here. Just trying to warn folks off him in my own clumsy way.

Wi gerron alreight me and thee usually don't we!And long may it continue as far as I'm concerned...

I have always said i don't mind multis as long as they don't put outrageous and offensive stuff on here. I don't think the Kerr character particularly does this but he is a wind up merchant in the extreme andI think you are right most people will take what he says rightly with a pinch of salt.

I will try to reel it in a bit if people are getting fed up with me! People obviously don't want to me to tell their gtandmothers how to suck eggs do they on the topic of kerr's ephemeral nature.

[wrinkly]

Apologies if it came across that I was patronising you Wrinks. Clearly you can see through him with your comments here. Just trying to warn folks off him in my own clumsy way.

Wi gerron alreight me and thee usually don't we!And long may it continue as far as I'm concerned...

I have always said i don't mind multis as long as they don't put outrageous and offensive stuff on here. I don't think the Kerr character particularly does this but he is a wind up merchant in the extreme andI think you are right most people will take what he says rightly with a pinch of salt.

I will try to reel it in a bit if people are getting fed up with me! People obviously don't want to me to tell their gtandmothers how to suck eggs do they on the topic of kerr's ephemeral nature.

Hey - no offence taken Roly. Certainly we get on and definitely no reason we won't continue to do so. And I know you weren't patronising me - I was just being mischievous

I'm not sure why you think I "see through him" though.
Perhaps my last post had a hint of sarcasm I had not intended but I really do believe he is in the legal profession and I really did think that most other posters believed the same but were pretending otherwise just to have a go at him (and I really do think that Kempo is a retired doctor).

For what it's worth my political leanings are far more aligned with yours than Kerr's. "Commie prick" some would no doubt describe me as.
My opinions differ from Kerr's many times. I rarely post on these points because:
a) There are enough posters contesting him without me adding to it (albeit in a much more objective manner - obviously)
b) The political threads are depressing enough without me joining in.

I commented in this case only because I think his "minimal risk" comments totally miss the point, to the extent that I am really surprised (I know - I keep saying that) that it's him posting them.
Despite his explanation I still think that. I'm happy to agree to differ on that though It's been done to death and neither of us are going to change our minds.