Election Year or Fear!

[Ram Pant]

Because the collective failure of those who have gone before doesn?t justify handing over the reins to those who we already know have nothing to offer and whose only contribution to date (Brexit) has only served to exacerbate the situation.

Aren't all the Reform Ltd MP's former Blue Tory politicians. Aren't all the Reform Ltd career politicians not yet elected as Reform Ltd MP's former Blue Tory MP's. Does that not make them all, current and prospective Reform Ltd MP's, part of the collective failure that went before?

That's the idiocy of it all. So many Blue Tories who are part of the problem changing horses in a vain attempy to win a long lost race? They'll simply do more of the same and make things worse rather than better.

[swaledale]

Aren't all the Reform Ltd MP's former Blue Tory politicians. Aren't all the Reform Ltd career politicians not yet elected as Reform Ltd MP's former Blue Tory MP's. Does that not make them all, current and prospective Reform Ltd MP's, part of the collective failure that went before?

That's the idiocy of it all. So many Blue Tories who are part of the problem changing horses in a vain attempy to win a long lost race? They'll simply do more of the same and make things worse rather than better.

Farage was a "died in the wool" Thatcherite before he become the man of many parties! Tice the same. What all have in common including those just joined is that their ambition is out of proportion to their ability.

[Andy_Faber]

Because the collective failure of those who have gone before doesn?t justify handing over the reins to those who we already know have nothing to offer and whose only contribution to date (Brexit) has only served to exacerbate the situation.

But your ?we? is just four old farts on a moribund forum, it doesn?t represent the plebiscite who it would appear to be more open to giving someone new a chance

[ramAnag]

But your ?we? is just four old farts on a moribund forum, it doesn?t represent the plebiscite who it would appear to be more open to giving someone new a chance

My ‘we’ referred to that percentage of the electorate who have sufficient intelligence and insight to recognise Farage and Reform’s shortcomings rather than the majority on here who feel the same.

More interesting perhaps is your disrespectful reference to ‘four old farts’ on a ‘moribund forum’. If that’s your perception maybe it’s you who should ‘be more open to giving someone new a chance’. Certainly wasn’t a ‘moribund forum’ when you took over.

[swaledale]

But your ?we? is just four old farts on a moribund forum, it doesn?t represent the plebiscite who it would appear to be more open to giving someone new a chance

But increasingly they aren't someone new are they? Not they ever were new, just same face different clothes. But thats the point being made. Also despite the polls (nearly 4 years ahead of any election) which in any case don't take into account the vagaries of the UK election system and so can only be an indictaion the plebiscite at the moment isn't a majority for Reform.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Jeremy???

Jeremy Kyle

[Ram Pant]

If Labour got really tough on illegal migration and equally tough on the grooming gangs, would that reduce or increase their vote?

[ramAnag]

If Labour got really tough on illegal migration and equally tough on the grooming gangs, would that reduce or increase their vote?

I feel certain that being perceived as getting tough on both would be popular, but the fact is that neither are as significant as some make out.
I believe only around 1.5% of the UK population have been identified as being here illegally and some number between 4% and 25% (I know…a useless estimate but either way a tiny or significant minority) of s@xual abuse is conducted by those acting in groups, while the vast majority is the responsibility of individual, often domestic, perpetrators.

[SithHappens]

Those who vote Farage are the ones who say how sad when someone dies in the channel but then go on to say serves them right.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I feel certain that being perceived as getting tough on both would be popular, but the fact is that neither are as significant as some make out.
I believe only around 1.5% of the UK population have been identified as being here illegally and some number between 4% and 25% (I know…a useless estimate but either way a tiny or significant minority) of s@xual abuse is conducted by those acting in groups, while the vast majority is the responsibility of individual, often domestic, perpetrators.

So if neither are a "big" problem, it should be easy to do something about it ???