Every day the vaccine rolls out

[tHeArAb]

Lockdown 1, only hubs were opened for essential workers with very few pupils. Transmission risk extremely low.
August, all staff and pupils back unless shielding. After a few weeks, every other day there seemed to be school outbreak after school outbreak.
Lockdown 2, after initial closure, all schools taking in pupils in excess of the lockdown 1 numbers. Mitigations in place like reduced rosters.
This week all p1-3 pupils have been back, and the desire is to have all pupils back soon, but there is now testing.

So having been at no risk, being in the thick of it, teachers and their staff are about to be subjected to 30 a class, unless they make a late decision on blended learning!

I think my work was closed for a month at the start of this, and we have gone from reduced hours to a short spell back to normal, and yet again on reduced hours. The expectation is we are back to normal next month, but i think i will have been vaccinated before that actually happens.

Again thought, i feel you are misrepresenting what i mean as a muppet, as someone with a health issue as is published by the JCVI who thinks they have been missed out, should be knocking the door down and asking why or why not!

They're 'about to be', yes, but they haven't been for a long time yet still getting vaccinated, which was my point.

[Chick A Saw]

They're 'about to be', yes, but they haven't been for a long time yet still getting vaccinated, which was my point.

Yes they are about to be put at risk because the desire is to get all pupils back, and if the vaccine takes 2-3 weeks to become effective, it needs to be finding teachers and their supporting staff sooner, rather than later. Saying they have not been at risk since 2 weeks after the start of this lockdown is no reason to not protect them ahead of others who dont see ourselves as a priority.

[GUNBOAT]

Yes they are about to be put at risk because the desire is to get all pupils back, and if the vaccine takes 2-3 weeks to become effective, it needs to be finding teachers and their supporting staff sooner, rather than later. Saying they have not been at risk since 2 weeks after the start of this lockdown is no reason to not protect them ahead of others who dont see ourselves as a priority.

Who deserves priority?,a taxi driver sent to pick up 4 junkies who don't give a monkeys about the virus or a teacher with 20 five year olds in their class ?.
Teaching unions need to shut the phuck up their members are not in meat or chicken factories or in a saloon car picking up passengers possibly carrying the virus.
If they were at a greater danger of contracting the virus i would say fair enough but they are not and they spend at least a quarter of a year without any pupils to deal with either in an empty classroom or with their feet up at home.

[Chick A Saw]

Who deserves priority?,a taxi driver sent to pick up 4 junkies who don't give a monkeys about the virus or a teacher with 20 five year olds in their class ?.
Teaching unions need to shut the phuck up their members are not in meat or chicken factories or in a saloon car picking up passengers possibly carrying the virus.
If they were at a greater danger of contracting the virus i would say fair enough but they are not and they spend at least a quarter of a year without any pupils to deal with either in an empty classroom or with their feet up at home.

As you put it like that, and this is not based on anecdote! Where are the taxi drivers kids? Where are the junkies kids? Where are the kids whos families are at food processing plants? Who is spending time with the kids of those essential NHS workers? Who is spending time with the ones who are most likely to be partying? She is not a teacher, but she does work in a school with classes exceeding 20!

I question the data because teachers and staff risks were low while others was very high and i dont think this was considered. But our leaders are asking teachers and staff to accept the same risks, and i think ALL high risk workers should be vaccinated ahead of me! Neither have i ever believed that kids dont catch and spread this, the spread of the common cold in my experience disputes this!

[tHeArAb]

Yes they are about to be put at risk because the desire is to get all pupils back, and if the vaccine takes 2-3 weeks to become effective, it needs to be finding teachers and their supporting staff sooner, rather than later. Saying they have not been at risk since 2 weeks after the start of this lockdown is no reason to not protect them ahead of others who dont see ourselves as a priority.

It doesn't need to be finding them because they are not priority at risk workers. Data has shown this. I wonder if I'd rocked up to the vaccine centre a few weeks ago and said 'Im a bus driver' if I'd have got a vaccine. I doubt it.

[tHeArAb]

Latest 7 day averages per 100,000 population:

Angus down from 52.5 to 44.8.

Dundee also drop from 54.2 to 53.6.

[offshore_arab83]

Latest 7 day averages per 100,000 population:

Angus down from 52.5 to 44.8.

Dundee also drop from 54.2 to 53.6.

Good stuff all positives, maybe NS will put us along into tier 2 from the start?

[TerryTheTerror]

Some amount of nonsense posted on here.

When schools went back, Covid cases increased rapidly.

School staff are at risk as they are in a confined space with 20-30 other people, with little social distancing, especially with younger kids that don't really understand the rules. How is that less dangerous than the situation bus drivers, police etc are in?

The criticism of the teachers unions and the general lack of respect for teachers is depressing. The amount of parents that are struggling to home school a single child shows what challenges teachers with classes of 20 to 30 kids have.

And if you think their job is that easy with all the in-service days and 12 weeks holiday, why not train to be a teacher yourself, it's clearly a dawdle.

The lack of respect is a disgrace considering the importance of their job. They are held in very high regard in most other countries.

If the teachers at at risk because of their age or underlying health conditions they'll have got (or about to get) the vaccine. Why should a teacher in their 20s get it ahead of someone in their 40s? Sorry but it's nonsense.

[Chick A Saw]

If the teachers at at risk because of their age or underlying health conditions they'll have got (or about to get) the vaccine. Why should a teacher in their 20s get it ahead of someone in their 40s? Sorry but it's nonsense.

Sorry to put in an answer to this, but anecdotally know of several teachers and staff who did get this over the last weekend.

We can put up questions like that all day, for example, why should i at occupational low risk who is waiting on Cohort 9 finishing, when any number of people in all the high risk occupations mentioned today are waiting?

[Chick A Saw]

26/02/2021
Spanner in the works! The place where I get my data has changed the way it presents the info, but while I cant fully follow my previous layout just now, it does give information that is focused on age groups, rather than cohorts.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...43010/Overview

Until I decide how I present things here in the future, here is a full report by age as it stands today. It should be noted that todays reporting is what was carried out yesterday in Vaccination Centres, and GP delivered vaccine reporting from the previous day.

Over 80s, 96.7%
75-79, 98.2%
70-74, 98.5%
65-69, 93.7%
60-64, 28.6%
55-59, 24.3%
50-54, 19.7%
40-49, 15.6%
30-39, 11.5%
16-29, 7.5%

I already see anomalies there in what was previously reported by Cohort, so will see if I can be bother finding out why.

One thing i put out there to garner opinion in the negative thread was surge vaccinating the isles, and if you look in the link and see that percentages are all nearing 50% with numbers under 10k, i think there is some evidence to merit that approach. This ties into thinking that some areas can start the foundations to we rebuild the economy on. Plan it right and thats 30k vaccinations in one day!