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    Remarkable isn't it that Corbyn is attacked in such a high profile way , I've never known a campaign of such severity against any leader of a political party in this country .

    The thing is if you've been around long enough you'd know that there's a very good reason behind this .

    I trust nobody is even remotely naive enough to think that the perpetrators are so worried by his policies that they want to protect the rest of the UK from him .

    No it's people such GM and his like who are running scared from him because he has the will and desire to end their freeloading whilst the rest of us pick up the bill and are left to clean the mess up they leave behind .

    There is a reason why this country is the most unequal in europe , rocket science it ain't .

    If there's nobody to challenge the status quo history tends to reveal that exploitation and a smaller share of wealth for those who are vulnerable tends to happen .

    Big business with it's power , wealth and influence isn't the answer , it's actually the problem and Corbyn is prepared to challenge that .

    Low tax or they won't invest here , invest for whom though , themselves and their minions whilst the rest of us drive over millions of pot holes on our roads everyday , have to wait months and months to be seen at hospitals , weeks at GP s or can't get access to decent services , see our police force cut to the bone and our fire services stretched so much it struggles to be fit for purpose .

    So where does your investment sit now GM outside of your office window and 10 years of austerity that's achieved absolutely nothing .

    There's a man about to become PM of this country with more misdemeanors as foreign secretary than Corbyn's had in is 36 year political career and no fecker in the msm says shyte .

    More tax cuts for
    the high earners saw to that of course .

    Then again Boris is just a rascal isn't he ? , business as usual under Boris .

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Remarkable isn't it that Corbyn is attacked in such a high profile way , I've never known a campaign of such severity against any leader of a political party in this country .

    The thing is if you've been around long enough you'd know that there's a very good reason behind this .

    I trust nobody is even remotely naive enough to think that the perpetrators are so worried by his policies that they want to protect the rest of the UK from him .

    No it's people such GM and his like who are running scared from him because he has the will and desire to end their freeloading whilst the rest of us pick up the bill and are left to clean the mess up they leave behind .

    There is a reason why this country is the most unequal in europe , rocket science it ain't .

    If there's nobody to challenge the status quo history tends to reveal that exploitation and a smaller share of wealth for those who are vulnerable tends to happen .

    Big business with it's power , wealth and influence isn't the answer , it's actually the problem and Corbyn is prepared to challenge that .

    Low tax or they won't invest here , invest for whom though , themselves and their minions whilst the rest of us drive over millions of pot holes on our roads everyday , have to wait months and months to be seen at hospitals , weeks at GP s or can't get access to decent services , see our police force cut to the bone and our fire services stretched so much it struggles to be fit for purpose .

    So where does your investment sit now GM outside of your office window and 10 years of austerity that's achieved absolutely nothing .

    There's a man about to become PM of this country with more misdemeanors as foreign secretary than Corbyn's had in is 36 year political career and no fecker in the msm says shyte .

    More tax cuts for
    the high earners saw to that of course .

    Then again Boris is just a rascal isn't he ? , business as usual under Boris .
    Animal I think your missing the point mate. I do not like the Conservatives because they are all about making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Once upon a time the Labour party were there to help the poor get a fair crack of the whip and fought for their rights.

    Under Corbyn the Labour party have moved as far left as it can to now become a Big Politics party. No way in hell do I ever want to see a Big Politics agenda running this country. In effect what we have now with the big 2 parties is one extreme to the other. Corbyn has about as much interest in the common people as the Conservatives do. Unless these 2 parties are challenged and forced to become accountable this country is f u c k e d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Remarkable isn't it that Corbyn is attacked in such a high profile way , I've never known a campaign of such severity against any leader of a political party in this country .

    The thing is if you've been around long enough you'd know that there's a very good reason behind this .

    I trust nobody is even remotely naive enough to think that the perpetrators are so worried by his policies that they want to protect the rest of the UK from him .

    No it's people such GM and his like who are running scared from him because he has the will and desire to end their freeloading whilst the rest of us pick up the bill and are left to clean the mess up they leave behind .

    There is a reason why this country is the most unequal in europe , rocket science it ain't .

    If there's nobody to challenge the status quo history tends to reveal that exploitation and a smaller share of wealth for those who are vulnerable tends to happen .

    Big business with it's power , wealth and influence isn't the answer , it's actually the problem and Corbyn is prepared to challenge that .

    Low tax or they won't invest here , invest for whom though , themselves and their minions whilst the rest of us drive over millions of pot holes on our roads everyday , have to wait months and months to be seen at hospitals , weeks at GP s or can't get access to decent services , see our police force cut to the bone and our fire services stretched so much it struggles to be fit for purpose .

    So where does your investment sit now GM outside of your office window and 10 years of austerity that's achieved absolutely nothing .

    There's a man about to become PM of this country with more misdemeanors as foreign secretary than Corbyn's had in is 36 year political career and no fecker in the msm says shyte .

    More tax cuts for
    the high earners saw to that of course .

    Then again Boris is just a rascal isn't he ? , business as usual under Boris .
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to write a long response to this. I'd simply make these observations:

    Your comments on 'big business' epitomises the problem with current Labour ideology. Both you and the people currently running the party are so blinded by your ideology that you ignore the fact that it 'big business' that provides employment and generate tax revenues with which to run the NHS, pay teachers and repair potholes. Electing a Corbyn government that would drive those 'big businesses' out of the UK is not a great idea unless you see unemployment and falling tax revenues as being desirable.

    As well as providing employment and tax revenues, 'big business' and their minions (whoever they might be) provide the capital growth and income that allow pension funds to provide people with security in their retirement. You yourself have mentioned that you are sitting on a fund with which you intend to retire to Spain (nice if you can afford to do it - particularly post Brexit). Unless it is in a biscuit tin under you bed and being eroded by inflation, that fund will be invested and growing due to the the rewards of being invested in 'big business'.

    The UK is not the most unequal country in Europe (insofar as it is possible to measure these things).

    Austerity has eliminated the UK structural budget deficit and is allowing the national debt to fall. In other words, we’re reducing the extent to which we ask our kids, grandkids and great grankids to fund our lifestyles.

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    No doubt that the tories are all about making money but I think making the poor poorer is a bit of a myth.

    Corbyn is a dinosaur and a bit of a gift to the tories. A better leader would have decimated the tories and would have delivered a Labour victory at the last general election. The conservatives are probably more than happy keeping Corbyn where he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    No doubt that the tories are all about making money but I think making the poor poorer is a bit of a myth.

    Corbyn is a dinosaur and a bit of a gift to the tories. A better leader would have decimated the tories and would have delivered a Labour victory at the last general election. The conservatives are probably more than happy keeping Corbyn where he is.
    You may well be right in historical terms but over the last decade I think you will find that I am correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    No doubt that the tories are all about making money but I think making the poor poorer is a bit of a myth.

    Corbyn is a dinosaur and a bit of a gift to the tories. A better leader would have decimated the tories and would have delivered a Labour victory at the last general election. The conservatives are probably more than happy keeping Corbyn where he is.
    You could argue with some merit that the new PM is also a dinosaur Grist .

    Same old rhetoric , tax cuts for the top end , Eton and Oxford University and more than a hint of the good old Tory Imperialist about him .

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    1, Does this country need big business? Of course we need big business.

    2, Do we need low taxes for big businesses? Of course we do.

    Without businesses there is no future for this country.

    3, Do we need tax cuts for the rich? No we do not need tax cuts for the rich.

    4, Do we need tax cuts for the working class? No we do not need tax cuts for the working class, what we need is more jobs and better wages that will eliminate the need for tax cuts.

    How do we get more jobs and better wages? We get more jobs and better wages by making it a no brainer for big businesses to invest in this country by making it the place where big businesses can thrive and make the biggest profits.

    All the above is common sense but we need a government that will deliver this and I have to say that in my lifetime only one government has managed to do this and that was the labour party who ran the country from 1964 to 1970. However. Before 1964 the then Conservative government had been in power for 13 years and had done a brilliant job to make Briton a thriving place to live for both the working class and the rich people of this country. The Labour party continued to build on this great work from 1964 onward until it lost power in 1970.

    What this country needs right now is a return to where big businesses can thrive and in doing so can take the rest of the country with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    1, Does this country need big business? Of course we need big business.

    2, Do we need low taxes for big businesses? Of course we do.

    Without businesses there is no future for this country.

    3, Do we need tax cuts for the rich? No we do not need tax cuts for the rich.

    4, Do we need tax cuts for the working class? No we do not need tax cuts for the working class, what we need is more jobs and better wages that will eliminate the need for tax cuts.

    How do we get more jobs and better wages? We get more jobs and better wages by making it a no brainer for big businesses to invest in this country by making it the place where big businesses can thrive and make the biggest profits.

    All the above is common sense but we need a government that will deliver this and I have to say that in my lifetime only one government has managed to do this and that was the labour party who ran the country from 1964 to 1970. However. Before 1964 the then Conservative government had been in power for 13 years and had done a brilliant job to make Briton a thriving place to live for both the working class and the rich people of this country. The Labour party continued to build on this great work from 1964 onward until it lost power in 1970.

    What this country needs right now is a return to where big businesses can thrive and in doing so can take the rest of the country with it.
    But those were the days when workers had bargaining power biglad .

    ASOS in Grimethorpe is a thriving business today , go ask the workers how much their profitable success affects their lives ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    But those were the days when workers had bargaining power biglad .

    ASOS in Grimethorpe is a thriving business today , go ask the workers how much their profitable success affects their lives ?
    This is why I said "All the above is common sense but we need a government that will deliver this".

    What we need is a return to a government that has the countries best interests at heart not one for the rich and one for poor.

    Right now we have 2 big political parties that are intent on making the gap between rich and poor even wider.

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