O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[maddogslater]

Spoke to a customer of mine this morning who left Iran when the shar was deposed and lived in Sweden and Norway before coming here, he's hoping Trump can somehow sort out the Islamic Republic whom he says are hated by 90% of the population.

[magpie_mania]

'Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, UAE and Saudi Arabia have refused for years to permanently accept Palestinians'

So do you think that because Trump says he will send the Palestinians to two of the countries they will accept them? Even though he may be saying it won't be permanent, how many years will it be? And do you really think that the Americans will spend billions on building the Riviera for the Palestinians to return to?

Do you think it is against International law what he is planning?

[Lullapie]

'Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, UAE and Saudi Arabia have refused for years to permanently accept Palestinians'

So do you think that because Trump says he will send the Palestinians to two of the countries they will accept them? Even though he may be saying it won't be permanent, how many years will it be? And do you really think that the Americans will spend billions on building the Riviera for the Palestinians to return to?

Do you think it is against International law what he is planning?

You sound scared that Trump is on the verge of a new idea that the establishment either hasn't considered or were scared that if they did it and it worked, it would give them one less thing to use as a distraction.

I think Trump is onto something here. It wasn't a spontaneous comment, as he alluded previously to states in the vicinity taking Palestinians. He knew damn well that the Muslim states saw the Palestinians as a threat to their countries and Trump was calling their bluff.

Hmm.....derision on here about Mexico and Canada - he sorted that out pretty quick. This could be the next big thing for him to sort out. He hasn't been part of the problem, but it looks like Trump could be part of the solution.

[magpie_mania]

You sound scared that Trump is on the verge of a new idea that the establishment either hasn't considered or were scared that if they did it and it worked, it would give them one less thing to use as a distraction.

I think Trump is onto something here. It wasn't a spontaneous comment, as he alluded previously to states in the vicinity taking Palestinians. He knew damn well that the Muslim states saw the Palestinians as a threat to their countries and Trump was calling their bluff.

Hmm.....derision on here about Mexico and Canada - he sorted that out pretty quick. This could be the next big thing for him to sort out. He hasn't been part of the problem, but it looks like Trump could be part of the solution.

You compare taking over Gaza with 2 countries on his border? Really?

I will try again:
Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians?
Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back?
Is what he says he is going to do against International law?

[Elite_Pie]

You compare taking over Gaza with 2 countries on his border? Really?

I will try again:
Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians?
Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back?
Is what he says he is going to do against International law?

If he ever answers your questions, demand conclusive proof of what he says by all means.

It's what he does a lot.

[Lullapie]

You compare taking over Gaza with 2 countries on his border? Really?

I will try again:
Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians?
Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back?
Is what he says he is going to do against International law?

Here you go .. I'll help:

Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians? For peace in the Middle East, they'd have to. Why shouldn't fellow Muslim countries do their bit, unless as I posted before, they don't want the conflict to finish?

Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back? You're assuming again. Be very careful about 'assuming' things. Billions will need to be spent - agreed, but I'll guarantee you, it won't be all American money.

Is what he says he is going to do against International law? Who's 'international law' and to be honest, who cares?

At the end of the day, there's a slight chance it might happen - only slight. The point is, and this is what the anti-Trump nutters are harping on about, is that for years we have gone the way of the establishment. More dialogue, more money, more deaths, more conflict, more money.

There surely comes a time, when those that go outside and actually see what's happening in the world, look and say it's just not working. Lets try something new.

Ukraine is a very similar situation. Simple people like simple things. "I'm good and he's bad". That's about all they can understand. The trouble with that, it that it limits their ability to come up with a solution. They become narrow-minded in their views and it restricts their lateral thinking.

There is a dearth in lateral thinking in the world. I believe intentionally, to prevent those with solutions from changing the status quo.

The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.

As a realist, I point to Chechnya, well Grozny in particular. Putin solved the issue there by flattening the city, killing the Islamic extremists and then rebuilding the city. It's working well, but the country is now run by a dictator, Ramzan Kadyrov.

Hope that helps .

[Elite_Pie]

Here you go .. I'll help:

Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians? For peace in the Middle East, they'd have to. Why shouldn't fellow Muslim countries do their bit, unless as I posted before, they don't want the conflict to finish?

Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back? You're assuming again. Be very careful about 'assuming' things. Billions will need to be spent - agreed, but I'll guarantee you, it won't be all American money.

Is what he says he is going to do against International law? Who's 'international law' and to be honest, who cares?

At the end of the day, there's a slight chance it might happen - only slight. The point is, and this is what the anti-Trump nutters are harping on about, is that for years we have gone the way of the establishment. More dialogue, more money, more deaths, more conflict, more money.

There surely comes a time, when those that go outside and actually see what's happening in the world, look and say it's just not working. Lets try something new.

Ukraine is a very similar situation. Simple people like simple things. "I'm good and he's bad". That's about all they can understand. The trouble with that, it that it limits their ability to come up with a solution. They become narrow-minded in their views and it restricts their lateral thinking.

There is a dearth in lateral thinking in the world. I believe intentionally, to prevent those with solutions from changing the status quo.

The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.

As a realist, I point to Chechnya, well Grozny in particular. Putin solved the issue there by flattening the city, killing the Islamic extremists and then rebuilding the city. It's working well, but the country is now run by a dictator, Ramzan Kadyrov.

Hope that helps .

I don't know if you went to university or not, but if you did graduate was your degree a masters in patronising arrogance?

[the_anticlough]

The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.
.

Why is this guy using NCM as a platform to bombard Notts fans with deranged crap like this?

[Jampie]

Here you go .. I'll help:

Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians? For peace in the Middle East, they'd have to. Why shouldn't fellow Muslim countries do their bit, unless as I posted before, they don't want the conflict to finish?

Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back? You're assuming again. Be very careful about 'assuming' things. Billions will need to be spent - agreed, but I'll guarantee you, it won't be all American money.

Is what he says he is going to do against International law? Who's 'international law' and to be honest, who cares?

At the end of the day, there's a slight chance it might happen - only slight. The point is, and this is what the anti-Trump nutters are harping on about, is that for years we have gone the way of the establishment. More dialogue, more money, more deaths, more conflict, more money.

There surely comes a time, when those that go outside and actually see what's happening in the world, look and say it's just not working. Lets try something new.

Ukraine is a very similar situation. Simple people like simple things. "I'm good and he's bad". That's about all they can understand. The trouble with that, it that it limits their ability to come up with a solution. They become narrow-minded in their views and it restricts their lateral thinking.

There is a dearth in lateral thinking in the world. I believe intentionally, to prevent those with solutions from changing the status quo.

The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.

As a realist, I point to Chechnya, well Grozny in particular. Putin solved the issue there by flattening the city, killing the Islamic extremists and then rebuilding the city. It's working well, but the country is now run by a dictator, Ramzan Kadyrov.

Hope that helps .

What are idealogists? People who study ideals?

Yes, if you completely destroy a place, then rebuild it in whatever image you like, and appoint a puppet dictator, it will "solve" the problem of the people who used to live there. One might almost call it... a final solution...

And... are you a satire account? I honestly can't picture anybody writing the above with a straight face. Especially about Ukraine. Wonder what you'd have said about nazi germany if you'd been alive at the time.

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

You just talk about what 'might happen' and what 'could happen'.

Why don't you debate about what has happened?

I could say with Trump's tariff policy it COULD lead to world peace and us all living in harmony. It's probably on a possibility level as your Nostradamic predictions.

Ok, whatever.