58% and rising

[Taintedice]

Luckily I'll be dead before this happens or in a care home for the SNP to commit genocide.

are you that old, thought you were younger 🙂 only people left supporting tory corruption and now state-organised criminal gangs are over 65 i.e. yesterdays people, not tomorrows. Think this forum is a prime example 😲

[Taintedice]

I think there will be a 2nd vote,things change like Brexit and you cannot seriously go by just what a tory government want.Know a few people who would now back independence having voted against before.I think the change in support could be the elderly possibly like the way sturgeon is dealing with covid and its the elderly who she needs to convince.imo both sturgeon and boris have made an arse of covid so who knows what might happen in the future.

I'm surprised there are so many tory footsoldiers on here given what they did to Dundee and Scotland for decades and will be doing again in the post-brexit world. Short memories.

[Taintedice]

How can people in Scotland possibly vote in favour of Scotland becoming an independent country when their leader Nicola Sturgeon is currently begging for more money from the Westminster Government.

scary that someone as horrifically ignorant as you will be on the dfcss board, thankfully you'll be nowhere near the club at any time.

[islaydarkblue]

Scotland would receive nothing from Westminster under the Barnett Formula or any other grant because it would be independent of Westminster and would not be contributing to the UK treasury. We'd have our own treasury managing Scotland's finances based on Scottish tax payers' contributions and not on what some old English MP thought we deserved out of jolly old England's treasury - that we support from Scotland through taxation.

Thanks to the rules of the Barnett Formula there is free bus travel throughout Scotland for people aged 60 and over, free prescriptions for all in Scotland and a free eye test every two years for people aged between 16 and 59 with a yearly free eye test for people aged 60 and over who live in Scotland.
In England people aged 65 and over only get free bus travel in their local area. There are only free prescriptions for people aged 60 and over and everyone has to pay for their eye test.
It was recently reported that people in Scotland receive £1,462 per head more than people living in England.
At lot of people living in England especially those living in London and the South East would be delighted to see Scotland leave the U.K. as they would no longer have to subsidise the moaning, whingeing SNP MPs and their pro independence supporters.
An independent Scotland will be in a sorry state financially as al the wealth drains out of Edinburgh and moves down south to England. The management of the RBS have already set the ball rolling by changing the name of their company to Nat West Bank. The former RBS head office at Gogarburn will likely close down leaving a rapidly shrinking RBS branch network throughout Scotland.
In the early 1970’s there were 14 RBS branches in Dundee. Now in 2020 there just 2 RBS branches in Dundee.

[islaydarkblue]

scary that someone as horrifically ignorant as you will be on the dfcss board, thankfully you'll be nowhere near the club at any time.

Where do you think the Scottish Government gets their money to deal with the current Covid-19 pandemic in Scotland. Despite what you may think is not from the SNP magic money tree.

[eric_sinclair]

Where do you think the Scottish Government gets their money to deal with the current Covid-19 pandemic in Scotland. Despite what you may think is not from the SNP magic money tree.

We don't "Get" any money from the UK government tho. At the moment we are part of a 4 country union collectively, the money to deal with covid is additional debts to the union, the only difference is the UK government is in England who have the authority to dish it out. An independent Scotland would have to apply to join the IMF like the UK did years ago.
Do you honestly think England subsidises the other 3 nations? London is a rich city but for every London there is 10 Burnley, Rotherham etc.

[islaydarkblue]

We don't "Get" any money from the UK government tho. At the moment we are part of a 4 country union collectively, the money to deal with covid is additional debts to the union, the only difference is the UK government is in England who have the authority to dish it out. An independent Scotland would have to apply to join the IMF like the UK did years ago.
Do you honestly think England subsidises the other 3 nations? London is a rich city but for every London there is 10 Burnley, Rotherham etc.

It has been well documented in the financial press that the taxes paid by people and businesses in the whole of Greater London and South East subsidises the rest of the U.K.
it is the wealthiest part of the U.K. by far.

[Deeranged]

It has been well documented in the financial press that the taxes paid by people and businesses in the whole of Greater London and South East subsidises the rest of the U.K.
it is the wealthiest part of the U.K. by far.

The population of London and the South East of England is approximately 18 Million. The population of Scotland is approximately 5.5 Million which leaves me absolutely flabbergasted that London and the South East of England, where all the spending on infrastructure and job creation happens, could possibly contribute more to the UK treasury than Scotland does.

This is another example of you forming an opinion, refusing to budge from it and trying to find 'facts' to justify that opinion without bothering your arse to do any kind of investigation beyond the superficial appearance of the 'facts' you've dredged up.

[Returnofrros]

are you that old, thought you were younger 🙂 only people left supporting tory corruption and now state-organised criminal gangs are over 65 i.e. yesterdays people, not tomorrows. Think this forum is a prime example 😲

I won't live for another generation.

So I'm safe.

[Deeranged]

Where do you think the Scottish Government gets their money to deal with the current Covid-19 pandemic in Scotland. Despite what you may think is not from the SNP magic money tree.

It's easy. Scotland contributes to the UK treasury, the treasury then proportionally allocates funds back to Scotland to deal with Coronavirus - is there no money spent on this by the UK Government in England? Would it be right for the UK government to force the system currently in use in England upon us and for them to manage and directly finance it? Do you think it would save money? Of course it wouldn't give you another reason to Scottish Government bash so wouldn't suit you at all would it?