Give Sam time.

[Hammerman69]

Bonzo, fair point mostly here however, style of play was not mentioned in the post I referred to so its a moot point. I didn't mention the style either.

As far as the academy goes, lets just say that I don't see all these silky attacking players that you think are in there. Of course I want to bring through these kind of players but of all the players that have 'not had a chance and left', what has happened to them ? Have they just turned to **** since they left or maybe they were just not good enough ???

As for your point
"What's happening under BFS is very un West Ham and many don't like it. . . . . . . .but you just don't get it do you. You can't understand why anyone would be unhappy with the big fella."

Not true and frankly bu11sh1t, you are reading me wrong...I don't have any feelings either way about the manager and I do understand...Personally, I support the incumbent unless someone better comes along. Noone has convinced me of anyone that would do better currently.

I do un

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not a Sam hugger but if he cannot control Morrison his in good company as fergie kicked hiom out as in his view he was not a model footballer

plenty of things to throw at BFS but this is not one of them

WHU f uck the rest

[Hammerman69]

What I don't understand is this: apart from two seasons under Redknapp and one under Pardew, the football at West Ham has been consistently gash for decades. Why then, less than three years since our last relegation and five since our near financial meltdown, are we expecting a sudden transformation?

Beats the f uck out of me

me also...talking of Redknapp, how anyone can say he didn't squander tons of money on transfers god only knows but frankly I don't really care how much we spend as long as we do not end up in Administration.

But backs to the wall defending with the occasional thumping has always been the norm.

I just cannot get the negativity...we win three games in a row for the first time in years with 4 Clean Sheets for the first time in decades and everyone is still moaning about lack of youth playing in the first team despite them not being good enough.

Had we had a decent back 4 all season we would

[Whiskyman]

[quote="bonzosbest74"]69,



It is incomprehensible why anyone would yearn for more academy players in the team. . . . . that's just old fashioned isn't it? The academy argument is met with grunts of 'they ain't good enough' without really scratching below the surface to see why because a more in depth analysis of the situation would be critical of the board and Allardyce. Tont Carr is seething that Jimmy Hampson was sacked and Barry Silkman effective installed as head of scouting and recruitment, the star of the England U21's is our player yet we about to lose him because BFS can't man manage the lad.


Some fans love West Ham because of the Academy, because of the passing football, because of the history and because it stood for something. Some of us have been through relegation so staying in the premier lg is not the be all and end all. It didn't matter that we weren't as big a club as Arsenal or Man U because we did things in the correct way and had an

[bonzosbest74]

Its my opinion at the end of the day.

Mate your opinions are always as valid as anyone else, don't forget I've started threads asking you to post more frequently.


However you came across as angry and dismissive of another posters opinion that was different to yours which I way I responded. "The worst post I've ever read" and "I don't give a flying f.uck I'm not an accountant" absolutely showed that you hadn't understood the posters frustration with our manager.

It was not your usual posting style which whisky rightly described as eloquent, you didn't show any respect for another posters opinion so it's a bit unfair to indicate that your opinion should be respected.

[bonzosbest74]

But ask yourself if Arsene Wenger had done the same thing in a cup match would whatever team of kids Arsenal put out have been so obviously out of their depth

If Wenger were to throw all the kids in he would make damn sure that they played a familiar formation and that his best young players were on the pitch.

Sam left out Lee, Turgott & Chambers who have been out three best performers this season and played the least promising youngsters in a formation that neither the academy, reserves or first team play.. . . . . . . . . .would Wenger have done that? No, because he's sensible enough to play his best youngsters in their normal positions with a familiar formation.

[Whiskyman]

But ask yourself if Arsene Wenger had done the same thing in a cup match would whatever team of kids Arsenal put out have been so obviously out of their depth

If Wenger were to throw all the kids in he would make damn sure that they played a familiar formation and that his best young players were on the pitch.

Sam left out Lee, Turgott & Chambers who have been out three best performers this season and played the least promising youngsters in a formation that neither the academy, reserves or first team play.. . . . . . . . . .would Wenger have done that? No, because he's sensible enough to play his best youngsters in their normal positions with a familiar formation.[/quote]

I agree. And I also agree with the views that he hung them out to dry. The whole coaching staff must have realised they weren't, collectively, good enough.

But that doesn't alter the underlying point does

[bonzosbest74]

I consider myself a decentish assessor of players

Tell that to Glenn Johnson

[Whiskyman]

I consider myself a decentish assessor of players

Tell that to Glenn Johnson [/quote]

Ah, but look at Liverpool's results since he's been out of the side.


And I trust you noticed my old mate Victor Anichebe popped one in last night. Wasn't best pleased for obvious reasons of course. That's me, not him, of course.

[bonzosbest74]

Mate, you'll look a fool when Johnson pops up with the winner in the World Cup final mark my words.