Dave Whelan

[DanRrr]

Still think Auckland is being dishonest in trying to disguise this in the of accuracy, it's perverted tolerance and fear of upsetting certain factions. African elephants have big ears and Indian ones have little ears. Auckland, old bean, is a power cut a power cut, or an outage? Are you a school teacher, or a civil servant?

Here's a question for you now. Of all the Chinese, Japanese friends of yours, of which I assume there are many, do they (each and every one of them) appreciate it when you refer to them as 'chinky'?[/quote]

I bet the Japanese ones don't!!

[MillHillRover]

It's like referring to all people from the sub continent as "Paki's" I know for a fact that Indian people find it very offensive as they hate Paki's as well


Sorry I couldn't resist

Ps I am not a racist honest

[AucklandRover]

Still think Auckland is being dishonest in trying to disguise this in the of accuracy, it's perverted tolerance and fear of upsetting certain factions. African elephants have big ears and Indian ones have little ears. Auckland, old bean, is a power cut a power cut, or an outage? Are you a school teacher, or a civil servant?

Fanlight - I actually agree with you that there have been some ridiculous re-namings. I just don't think the Asian elephant is a case in point.
I also know what you mean about "perverted tolerance" (although I'm uneasy with the phrase) if you mean going to ludicrous lengths to avoid certain words.
However, I also think that justifying the "old" way of saying things by claiming that long usage makes it OK - and then suggesting that any change is "PC" - is worse.
My mum worked on a fish-stall in a market. All the West Indian customers came to her stall because they knew she would treat them as people - not as

[joinerpat]

Keep away from town today people they have their own official shopping day.

[b]Black-Friday !!! wtf

[DanRrr]

Still think Auckland is being dishonest in trying to disguise this in the of accuracy, it's perverted tolerance and fear of upsetting certain factions. African elephants have big ears and Indian ones have little ears. Auckland, old bean, is a power cut a power cut, or an outage? Are you a school teacher, or a civil servant?

Fanlight - I actually agree with you that there have been some ridiculous re-namings. I just don't think the Asian elephant is a case in point.
I also know what you mean about "perverted tolerance" (although I'm uneasy with the phrase) if you mean going to ludicrous lengths to avoid certain words.
However, I also think that justifying the "old" way of saying things by claiming that long usage makes it OK - and then suggesting that any change is "PC" - is worse.
My mum worked on a fish-stall in a market. All the West Indian customers came to her stall becaus

[MillHillRover]

"GOOD GOLLI" Pat

[MillHillRover]

Anyway, it’s a very very complex issue and quick message board sound bites don’t really get anywhere near to the bottom of it. Your last post however, is good for contextualising the difference between racism and older cutural behaviour. Nice one.

Spot on Dan, I don't class myself as a racist all these so called offensive words are simply colloquialisms that I've grown up with and have no particular sinister or double meanings attached to them, So having said that I WILL definitely be going to the Paki shop in the morning for my milk and bread and possibly the Chinky tomorrow night for our weekend takeaway (although it could be an Indian yet) notice I said Indian there

[DanRrr]

notice I said Indian there

I did, and you'd probably be right, as India and Pakistan are different countries

[MillHillRover]

notice I said Indian there

I did, and you'd probably be right, as India and Pakistan are different countries [/quote]

I said it out of respect for Indians Dan as I have heard Indian takeaways/restaurant's referred to as "Paki" takeaway's/restaurant's

[DanRrr]

notice I said Indian there

I did, and you'd probably be right, as India and Pakistan are different countries [/quote]

I said it out of respect for Indians Dan as I have heard Indian takeaways/restaurant's referred to as "Paki" takeaway's/restaurant's [/quote]

I got that Milly