should he stay or should he go?

[Kal]

Why is the 'i would be happy for him to leave' vote on 0, when one or two have expressed this opinion on numerous occasions ?

Cowardice ?

[ghostrider]

Why is the 'i would be happy for him to leave' vote on 0, when one or two have expressed this opinion on numerous occasions ?

Cowardice ?

Because that was the opinion when he refused to play a proper balanced unit. He's since changed his stance and has been setting the team up to play football and having a go throughout. That's all that was asked and is what's happening, so on that score why would I want him to leave.

If he reverts back to earlier when the players were sick as parrots and showing it, having to defend for most of the matches then there would be my vote on the "I would be happy for him to leave" Part.

Simple really, for me. You and anyone else can do and think as you/they wish.

[sherwoodmag]

Because that was the opinion when he refused to play a proper balanced unit. He's since changed his stance and has been setting the team up to play football and having a go throughout. That's all that was asked and is what's happening, so on that score why would I want him to leave.

If he reverts back to earlier when the players were sick as parrots and showing it, having to defend for most of the matches then there would be my vote on the "I would be happy for him to leave" Part.

Simple really, for me. You and anyone else can do and think as you/they wish.

Have you never heard the saying(you can only Feck with the c0ck you've got)Rafa started attacking more when he got a decent keeper and Kenedy,plus players like Dummet and Lejuene coming back from injury on top of that Diame and Shelvey got some form,that's more than half a side,our stand ins were not good enough that is why Rafa defended deep to try and keep us in the Prem on the cheap like Sports Direct.

[ghostrider]

Have you never heard the saying(you can only Feck with the c0ck you've got)Rafa started attacking more when he got a decent keeper and Kenedy,plus players like Dummet and Lejuene coming back from injury on top of that Diame and Shelvey got some form,that's more than half a side,our stand ins were not good enough that is why Rafa defended deep to try and keep us in the Prem on the cheap like Sports Direct.

Rafa started balancing it out when he kept getting stung by playing over cautious.
The players that upped their game, did so after being disheartened playing dire stuff, in my opinion.
As for Kenedy and Dubravka...yep, good additions and Kenedy being used in an attacking role has helped enhance the mindset of the rest of the players and it's no coincidence that Diame and Shelvey have upped their games, plus Ritchie and the rest, to be fair.

Every excuse in the world was used to enable Rafa to be free of criticism which he deserved at the time.
Right now he deserves plaudits but he'll get it in droves if he ever deals out garbage like he did earlier on.

[toptoon]

Because that was the opinion when he refused to play a proper balanced unit. He's since changed his stance and has been setting the team up to play football and having a go throughout. That's all that was asked and is what's happening, so on that score why would I want him to leave.

If he reverts back to earlier when the players were sick as parrots and showing it, having to defend for most of the matches then there would be my vote on the "I would be happy for him to leave" Part.

Simple really, for me. You and anyone else can do and think as you/they wish.

Fact is, if it was your decision, Rafa wouldn´t be our manager any more.

What a master stroke that would´ve been, eh?

[ghostrider]

Fact is, if it was your decision, Rafa wouldn´t be our manager any more.

What a master stroke that would´ve been, eh?

Earlier on you're right, I'd have rolled him down the road out of the ground and sent him back to Liverpool to await his next expensive take over of some club.

Would that have been a mistake?
That depends on who would have replaced him at that time. It could have turned out equally well or better.

It's amazing how many people seem to know what was going to happen now that things are running smooth but the same people were all too willing to blame Ashley and a championship squad if it all went teets up.

I'm happy with the ways things are going as of now...for me...not for the appeasement of others.
I'll be equally peed off if Rafa dares to revert back to depressing tactics if he decides to stay next season and if he does, I'll call for his sacking.
As it stands I believe he's learned a lot at this club and one is not to keep dealing backward football, because the fans who championed him would soon turn had he not changed it.

Just looking at the players tells me all I need to know about how down they were earlier and how they've perked right up when allowed to play to their strengths and express themselves whilst being drilled when it matters, defensively.

[Geordie1974]

Because that was the opinion when he refused to play a proper balanced unit. He's since changed his stance and has been setting the team up to play football and having a go throughout. That's all that was asked and is what's happening, so on that score why would I want him to leave.

If he reverts back to earlier when the players were sick as parrots and showing it, having to defend for most of the matches then there would be my vote on the "I would be happy for him to leave" Part.

Simple really, for me. You and anyone else can do and think as you/they wish.

Aye,because it has nothing to do with getting a few players in on loan in January.Could have sworn Rafa said in August he wanted a goalie,a striker and his interest in Kenedy was well known.
He didn't refuse to play this way.He couldn't because he didn't have what he knew we wanted.
For that one man is to blame.Ashley,not Rafa.Who knows where we could have been if Rafa was backed in the summer.

[ghostrider]

Aye,because it has nothing to do with getting a few players in on loan in January.Could have sworn Rafa said in August he wanted a goalie,a striker and his interest in Kenedy was well known.

Chelsea wouldn't let Kenedy go until January.
The goalie has done ok for what he's had to do, which is very little in most matches. Rafa could have changed things up with what he had at his disposal but chose not to.
By all means argue it differently.

He didn't refuse to play this way.He couldn't because he didn't have what he knew we wanted.

He chose to play that way because he was over cautious and got stumped for it. Playing Joselu when he had other options was bordering on mental.

For that one man is to blame.Ashley,not Rafa.Who knows where we could have been if Rafa was backed in the summer.

One man to blame and that was Rafa.
He's getting it right but he was to blame earlier on as far as I'm concerned. You can think what you want to but you won't change my earlier thoughts.

[Jammy89]

I know this is pointless but. . .

Do you really think that Rafa would have played the same way earlier in the season if he'd got the Kenedy, the keeper and striker he wanted in Summer?

He didn't change the way he played after Jan because he thought - oh Ghost isn't happy i better change. He changed it because he got the personal he wanted to play the system.

[ghostrider]

I know this is pointless but. . .

Do you really think that Rafa would have played the same way earlier in the season if he'd got the Kenedy, the keeper and striker he wanted in Summer?

He didn't change the way he played after Jan because he thought - oh Ghost isn't happy i better change. He changed it because he got the personal he wanted to play the system.

He got one player to play the system you talk about. Kenedy.
The keeper is fine but he's last line of defence, not an offensive change up.

The system was there all the time to change but Rafa chose not to do it and play backward football.
If people think playing Joselu for extended periods of time and messing about with the team in head scratching ways was a master class then what can I say?

By all means believe Rafa had it all under control. I believe he was a whisker away from losing it due to stubborn arrogance by not setting us up to have a go for 90 minutes plus in a balanced way.