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    Murder, rape and genocide going on right under our noses...

    https://newrepublic.com/article/1163...just-escalated


    Where is Theresa May when you need her..?

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    BT
    Are you serious?

    The world is a mess and murder rape and genocide goes on in lots of countries.

    China in Tibet killing 1.2m http://www.thetibetpost.com/outlook/...eople-of-tibet
    N Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-2...nt-to-genocide
    Russia kills journalists and its people abroad.

    We are not imperial powers any more so what do you really expect Theresa to do, unless crimes happen here. Even then Jeremy wants to do nothing.

    Now turn this around

    What would Jeremy be doing with your undying support in all these countries that concern you. I suggest it would be Sweet Football Association.

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    Bloody hell BT.

    As you know, I am not Theresa's biggest fan, but are you suggesting that she be criticized for not taking action in Burma?

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    Israeli intelligence: Objectives of Western strike in Syria not achieved.

    Israeli officials say Assad's remaining chemical weapons stockpiles did not suffer a fatal hit in the strike, nor was the Syrian president deterred from using them again; 'only a partial damage was caused to the chemical weapons stockpiles and launch capabilities,' one official says.

    "If President Trump had ordered the strike only to show that the US responded to Assad's use of chemical weapons, then that goal has been achieved. But if there was another objective—such as paralyzing the ability to launch chemical weapons or deterring Assad from using it again—it's doubtful any of these objectives have been met." Another intelligence official added that, "The statement of 'Mission Accomplished' and (the assertion) that Assad's ability to use chemical weapons has been fatally hit has no basis."

    Officials in Israel's defense establishment, including in the Mossad, estimate Assad has been able to keep 5-10 percent of his chemical weapons stockpiles after the signing of an agreement to disarm Syria of its chemical weapons in September 2013, and he has been making attempts to hide what's left.

    According to Israeli appraisals, since the signing of the 2013 agreement, Syria has used chemical weapons in about 100 instances, with 100 additional inconclusive cases. Assad has reportedly used sarin and mustard gas in these attacks, but not VX, the most lethal of the chemical weapons in his possession, as he is believed to be saving it as a "doomsday weapon." The Syrian president also makes frequent use of chlorine, which the US failed to include in the original agreement. Based on the information gathered so far, only some of the chemical weapons facilities known to Israel were destroyed in the US-led attack.

    In addition, the Syrian Air Force only suffered a minor hit, and so the Syrian ability to drop these chemical weapons on their targets has hardly been compromised. In addition, Israeli intelligence officials believe "Assad has not been deterred from using chemical weapons again" due to Trump's declaration that American forces would leave Syria soon and comments from other American officials that there were no future attacks planned.

    "If you want to shoot—shoot, don't talk," quoted a diplomatic source. "In the American case, this is mostly talk. They themselves show actions are not going to follow," he criticized.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    Bloody hell BT.

    As you know, I am not Theresa's biggest fan, but are you suggesting that she be criticized for not taking action in Burma?
    All I'm saying is, who the fcuk is she to decide who needs a good old "military intervention" or not?

    Which humanitarian crisis should we get all excited (or not!) about and then bomb the fcuk out of them because we don't like them?

    How is bombing Syria in the best interests of the UK? It's bollox and you all know it!

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    BT not Syria but illegal chemical weapon factories and stores - full stop. It wasn’t just us either it was UN nations sending a message these are unacceptable and targeted action will be taken.
    Do you want more use of such chemical weapons in this country, or don’t you believe they are used here - remember litvenenko was one who spoke about himself, but perhaps that’s not incontrovertible?

  7. #47
    I can't ask Litvenenko, he's dead.

    I can't ask 500,000 odd Iraqi's because they are all dead too.

    We never learn and the lemmings just keep on jumping off the fcuking cliff because some of us keep on taking in the right wing elite's political hogwash.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    BT not Syria but illegal chemical weapon factories and stores - full stop. It wasn’t just us either it was UN nations sending a message these are unacceptable and targeted action will be taken.
    Do you want more use of such chemical weapons in this country, or don’t you believe they are used here - remember litvenenko was one who spoke about himself, but perhaps that’s not incontrovertible?
    When did Britain, France and the US become the UN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    I can't ask Litvenenko, he's dead.

    I can't ask 500,000 odd Iraqi's because they are all dead too.

    We never learn and the lemmings just keep on jumping off the fcuking cliff because some of us keep on taking in the right wing elite's political hogwash.
    What’s your point BT?
    What are we never learning... to allow use of chemical weapons??
    Who are the lemmings??
    Right wing elite political hogwash - the site is becoming more of a political tool than a football one.
    Can we just talk about round balls in future please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    When did Britain, France and the US become the UN?
    I didn’t say they did BT, just that they were UN countries. Russia is never going to allow the subject to be debated there, though Jeremy doesn’t seem to understand that, or knows they won’t and thus he never has to go to war according to his philosophy.

    By the way a lot of your left wing MPs supported the action in Syria so it’s not elitist just humanist
    Last edited by oldcolner; 17-04-2018 at 09:52 PM.

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