OT: So here's why the BBC and the Guardian kept quiet about Tommy Robinson

[Elite_Pie]

Tommy Robinson is an attention seeking common criminal, he's in prison for a crime he admitted to and was filming people involved in a trial. He knew exactly what he was doing and how his inevitable arrest would end up with plenty of publicity and him being seen by some as a cause celebre.

Correct. Tommy Robinson entered a guilty plea and his defence lawyer claimed that his client had "deep regret" for what he had done. That hardly seems like the sort of persecution some are claiming. Surely a principled bloke like good old Tommy wouldn't kiss the arse of the judicial system just to get a lighter sentence? He has raised some very valid points such as the scandalous covering up by the authorities of the Muslim grooming gangs, but that still doesn't make him worthy of the worship he receives from a few on here. While I agree that some of the issues he raises need raising, seeing the likes of him with his history as the solution is way off target.

[Notsohumblepie]

“I'm genuinely confused with the obsession with religion on this football forum”

It’s not an obsession, it’s a reflection of fear. The support for Robinson has nothing to do with the man , common criminal, or otherwise. TR is supported by many frightened people , because they feel abandoned, and exposed, and see support for him as a way of mitigating a threat .

You can quote cases, or refute claims all day long , but for every rebuttal, there will be someone else’s negative experience.

Like it or not, employing euphemisms like “ Asians” doesn’t assuage anyone’s fear, and does a distinct disservice to Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists et al.

I concede that a high level of extravagant urban legend comes into play , but when you listen to the experiences of people like Times journalist Andrew Norfolk who was previously Journalist of The year , it’s hard not to be concerned.

[i961pie]

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Like it or not, employing euphemisms like “ Asians” doesn’t assuage anyone’s fear, and does a distinct disservice to Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists et al.

Exactly, when Our football fans are involved in trouble abroad the media always say ''english fans'' they never say European so why don't they stress Pakistan instead of Asian?

[gozzie321]

The Quilliam report does state that 84% of grooming gangs prosecuted between 2005 and 2017 were Asian and mainly Muslims from Pakistan.Of course the majority of Muslims are peaceful people,but it does highlight where the problem comes from.I know very little about Tommy Robinson,but what he has done in my opinion is highlight the fact that the authorities don't want these trials in the media for fear of anti Islam reprisals.

[Trickytreesreds]

So, he was "nobbled" then.

Due procedure was not followed in the haste to bang him up.

Like him or loathe him, he has the same rights as anyone. But there is a deep policy on silencing certain whistle blowers in this country.

[Airborn Pie]

So, he was "nobbled" then.

Due procedure was not followed in the haste to bang him up.

Like him or loathe him, he has the same rights as anyone. But there is a deep policy on silencing certain whistle blowers in this country.

There was even some confusion as to what the charge was going to be it seems. The instruction was probably 'lift him and we'll think of an offence later'.

[navypie]

Correct. Tommy Robinson entered a guilty plea and his defence lawyer claimed that his client had "deep regret" for what he had done. That hardly seems like the sort of persecution some are claiming. Surely a principled bloke like good old Tommy wouldn't kiss the arse of the judicial system just to get a lighter sentence? He has raised some very valid points such as the scandalous covering up by the authorities of the Muslim grooming gangs, but that still doesn't make him worthy of the worship he receives from a few on here. While I agree that some of the issues he raises need raising, seeing the likes of him with his history as the solution is way off target.

Do you have a solution ? or any ideas ? Sweeping it under the carpet hasn't worked and goes without saying , nor should it.

[navypie]

Correct. Tommy Robinson entered a guilty plea and his defence lawyer claimed that his client had "deep regret" for what he had done. That hardly seems like the sort of persecution some are claiming. Surely a principled bloke like good old Tommy wouldn't kiss the arse of the judicial system just to get a lighter sentence? He has raised some very valid points such as the scandalous covering up by the authorities of the Muslim grooming gangs, but that still doesn't make him worthy of the worship he receives from a few on here. While I agree that some of the issues he raises need raising, seeing the likes of him with his history as the solution is way off target.

By "issues " do you mean plying young girls with drugs and alcohol , then raping them ?

[BigFatPie]

The support on here for multiple convicted criminal Stephen Yaxley Lennon is really touching. He’s fighting a brave battle against the Establishment and fully deserves that support.

It’s really fortunate that neither Stephen nor those supporting him were hardened racists before the Grooming Scandal came to light, and wouldn’t dream of using that scandal and the children involved as an easy excuse to express their racism. They truly are fighters for justice.

[Trickytreesreds]

The support on here for multiple convicted criminal Stephen Yaxley Lennon is really touching. He’s fighting a brave battle against the Establishment and fully deserves that support.

It’s really fortunate that neither Stephen nor those supporting him were hardened racists before the Grooming Scandal came to light, and wouldn’t dream of using that scandal and the children involved as an easy excuse to express their racism. They truly are fighters for justice.

So you support "internal" sources who manipulate the law, to achieve their goal?
Whether you or anyone else likes SYL, is irrelevant. Whether you think he's racist, is irrelevant.
He has exposed the establishment for a "cover up" of biblical proportions and had them try to shut him down.
It's as bad as the way Germany tried to hide the Cologne *** attacks.

Perhaps your head up your arse is the reason you have **** in your eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9JJi6kqrc

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