O/T Frack me

[great_fire]

Is that like "3 months to save the NHS"?

You don't believe that nonsense surely?

Just Soros and his band of globalists trying to control us.

[millmoormagic]

Is that like "3 months to save the NHS"?

You don't believe that nonsense surely?

Just Soros and his band of globalists trying to control us.

Keep the blinkers on, as ever, always wanting to turn things into a political mash up, plainly many experts and scientists who are much more qualified than you or me believe this as fact.

[rolymiller]

Only one person lives on planet greatfire so there is no problem for him. The problem that a lot of people don't realise is that there is a tipping point at which there is no return for human beings to sort the problem out. At a certain earth temperature there is no way back. I can't remember what this is but it is only a matter of a few degrees c away from what it is now. What happens at the tipping point is that temps start to sp iral out of control in a short space of time meaning nothing can be do ne to reverse them. Scientists thunk this happened onvenus where temps are far t oo got for life and gases don't support life. Some scientists like lovelock think it is already too late which is pretty scary

It's ok for the likes of crashbang to say I don't care about the future and gfir e to say it's all a con. Some of us have family and grand kids who are gonna have to try their best to sort this messout. It dunt look as though it will be pretty even if they can.

As usual one of remain reasons whynowt is seriouslybeen d one is because money talks for the wealthy. Gfires pal Mr trump, the US being the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases, won't even attend summits on the problem now.

[KerrAvon]

As usual one of remain reasons whynowt is seriouslybeen d one is because money talks for the wealthy. Gfires pal Mr trump, the US being the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases, won't even attend summits on the problem now.

That depends upon how you define wealthy. Earlier this year, you explained that your view of having enough money included being able to take a decent holiday every year (I paraphrase, but it was something like that) - in other words a strictly unnecessary use of fossil fuels (unless you meant a walking holiday based at your home). That's the real problem, which is that dealing with climate change means having a significant impact upon what people expect for their lives. The announcement yesterday indicated that we should greatly reduce or curtail our meat consumption - how many people will readily buy into that do you think?

In other words, the real problem is democracy. Given the impact that actually doing something about climate change will have as opposed to simply pontificating about it means that it is unlikely that any democratic government will be able to act on it to any significant degree. People will vote for beef and Benidorm and think that somebody else will sort out climate change.

[rolymiller]

Soz about the typos on the last post by the way, it's our lasses tablet i used with its daft predictive text!

[great_fire]

So you just read a newspaper and take it all as absolute fact?

That's not very smart is it?

[millmoormagic]

So you just read a newspaper and take it all as absolute fact?

That's not very smart is it?

Once again a whoosh moment from the right wing nutjobs, plainly a report from scientists from the UN is gunna get publicity in newspapers, what medium the report is published in makes no difference to the actual report, does it?? Gf, still thinks the world is flat.....it's pathetic and I'm constantly shaking my head at these folk who quite happily ignore the truth when it doesn't suit their politics.

[ragingpup]

So you just read a newspaper and take it all as absolute fact?

That's not very smart is it?

Fair point GF. But it is reliably reported that 97% of climate experts (https://www.skepticalscience.com/glo...-consensus.htm) agree that human activity is causing global warming.

Where do you get your counter evidence that there is no effect on global warming by human activities?

[ragingpup]

For any of us that accept that there may well be a serious problem with global warming, and that we should try and do something about it, but not sure what, this article is quite straightforward with simple practical ideas, some discussed in good depth above in this thread:

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nels?CMP=fb_gu

[rolymiller]

Where did I say I got the info from a newspaper? There are plenty of scientific books about it.