O/T:- ONS Website

[macstop]

Wow, you actually do seem to agree with him! That's all I wanted to know.

ps Did you know that Sainsbury's have instructed that only individuals are allowed in the shops? There are exemptions such as carers and children who can't be left alone, but if you went as a couple with your partner you deserve all the ridicule you get. It's thoughtless and selfish bast@rds like you that are causing problems for those who do follow the rules.

Elite why do you have to swear, can't you get your point of view without profanities, tut tut

[Elite_Pie]

Elite why do you have to swear, can't you get your point of view without profanities, tut tut

Sometimes circumstances demand profanities.

I think this was a case in point. I could have said "selfish chap" but the other description is more fitting.

[SwalePie]

There's a helpful new article here on how deadly the novel coronavirus is and how to understand the various figures being quoted...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

[macstop]

your apologies are excepted old chap, no the point i was making is we got twice as much food going separate, we are quite willing to only take two items, but doing it his way we get twice as much, blimey we travel to the supermarket together, but we LIVE AT TWO SEPARATE ADDRESSES, we are entitled to go one behind the other

Anyway we went back the next day one behind the other, guess what inside there was a lot shopping together inside, they must go in separate then join up inside?

Sorry i forgot to point out my friend as sugar diabetes so i take her there in my car.

[Elite_Pie]

your apologies are excepted old chap, no the point i was making is we got twice as much food going separate, we are quite willing to only take two items, but doing it his way we get twice as much.

There was no apology, and I think you meant 'accepted' rather than 'excepted' anyway. If you go into Sainsbury's as individuals (as the rules state) it's up to you how much you purchase, but the rule is there for a reason. If you try and go in as a couple (which you suggested you did), then I think those that were obeying the rules are entitled to pull you up on it.

[Old_pie]

There's a helpful new article here on how deadly the novel coronavirus is and how to understand the various figures being quoted...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

The media, well some, are trying to make an issue of the differences between Downing St's daily update and the ONS figures.

They seem not to understand why the different figures are currently needed and, hoping that I'm right, I'll try and clarify here.

The hospital figures that are given daily are precise and up-to-date. In the fast moving scenario where early decision have to be made the actual figure itself is not as important as the trend. The powers that be want to see if their policies are working or need modifying and therefore need figures that they trust the basis on which they are being made so that by say the end of this week we will have a good idea of whether this current downward trend is a statistical glitch or real.

The ONS figures lag. They show, as they have for years, all deaths registered with primary and secondary causes and thus Covid as a primary or secondary will then show up - but not all deaths have been tested for Covid whereas ALL hospital deaths HAVE been tested.

It would in my opinion be a mistake to try and change the basis of the current daily hospital deaths figures just as it would by switch from 2pts/win to 3pts/win mid-season. It would distort the picture.

In their efforts to be seen to be reasonable the people fielding the questions are going into too much depth and the above message is getting lost. Lots of people are dying, many people die anyway, but the hospital figure is the best we have for quick analysis without waiting for official registrations, post-mortems etc and the resulting delays and potentials for mis-analysis.

[dam617]

Watch out dam617 the gestapo are about, and you can not disagree with them.

I've been on here long enough to know that anyone with right-of-centre views gets short shrift.
Wittowski is an expert which makes him more believable than anyone else on here.

Have you heard about the lunatic who took Johnson to court about the £350 million and lost? He's at it again, reckons Boris was faking his illness.
Lost the plot.

[navypie]

your apologies are excepted old chap, no the point i was making is we got twice as much food going separate, we are quite willing to only take two items, but doing it his way we get twice as much, blimey we travel to the supermarket together, but we LIVE AT TWO SEPARATE ADDRESSES, we are entitled to go one behind the other

Anyway we went back the next day one behind the other, guess what inside there was a lot shopping together inside, they must go in separate then join up inside?

Sorry i forgot to point out my friend as sugar diabetes so i take her there in my car.

You don't wanna get Elite angry.

[crazyfists]

Hilarious by the way people still saying it's not that bad as in normal years people die anyway. What does that even matter? If it caused even a 1,000 deaths that wouldn't have otherwise happened then it's bad for those families. For people like me who if they catch a bad case will probably die it's really, really frustrating to read people saying yeah but people die of flu normally, SO WHAT!
Also I watched the BBC news update today and deaths were in line with the last five years up until the start of April then it's gone off the scale, even above the level of the bad flu season 2015. But according to idiots like Dam that isn't happening. We haven't even had all the figures of the dead yet.

Please stop talking *******s.

[Elite_Pie]

I've been on here long enough to know that anyone with right-of-centre views gets short shrift.
Wittowski is an expert which makes him more believable than anyone else on here.

That's because he's an expert saying what you want to believe. Many other experts take a completely opposite viewpoint. I would provide a Google link to an expert taking the opposite view, but that would make me look as pathetic as you look.

Have you heard about the lunatic who took Johnson to court about the £350 million and lost? He's at it again, reckons Boris was faking his illness.
Lost the plot.

For once, you might be right.