O/T tv licence

[flourbasher]

Lost was good for a while but dragged on so long they might as well have renamed it Total Boll.ocks

I watched that too.
It seemed as though they had a great idea but then the scriptwriters were LOST half way through the plot.
It was a bit of a cop out ending it by making the viewer decide what had actually happened.

Lost by name, lost by nature

[CAMiller]

I watched that too.
It seemed as though they had a great idea but then the scriptwriters were LOST half way through the plot.
It was a bit of a cop out ending it by making the viewer decide what had actually happened.

Lost by name, lost by nature

It's called spinning something out to make as much money out of a good thing. There's no concept here of writing e.g. a 6 or 12 episode drama and calling it done. Another show Manifest went exactly the same way and it was obvious it was going to do so just a few episodes into it.

[howdydoo]

I’m not against paying less than £3 a week for public television. It doesn’t bother me personally either way. I rarely watch television. This is not because I’ve got better things to do with my precious time it is because terrestrial television is packed with the same:
Cooking programmes. 3/5 have them on at the same time on a Saturday morning.
Reality TV
Antiques
Following round emergency services
Following around debt collectors.

Where is the creative talent? Where is the variety? Where is the comedy?

Talent has been saturated to death on terrestrial telly by lazy, poor and cheap television for years.

If it wants to continue, it needs a massive overhaul.

A public service that pays people like Graham Norton and Gary Lineker the vast sums of money they do, needs an overhaul. Just not worth it.

Not against the BBC but it needs to go back to basics.

Anyone caught up with Times Radio since it’s been launched on DAB radio?

John Pienaar early evening show is worth a listen (IMHO). Only time of day I tend to listen to the radio so couldn’t comment on other shows on the station.

[KerrAvon]

agree with you too, Howdy. I don't understand why the BBC is willing to pay the money that it does to some 'stars'. I suspect that I am in a minority in thinking that Lineker does a decent job on MOTD, but I think there are almost certainly people who could do the job at least as well for less.

[Silly-miller]

It all boils down to value for money if you don’t use it your being ripped off, if you do use it your ok with it.
BBC is in a sorry state, when you see a bbc program like bake off being sold off to channel 4, you would never had seen that 20 years ago

[WanChaiMiller]

agree with you too, Howdy. I don't understand why the BBC is willing to pay the money that it does to some 'stars'. I suspect that I am in a minority in thinking that Lineker does a decent job on MOTD, but I think there are almost certainly people who could do the job at least as well for less.

I suspect, they may feel they are in a ratings battle and need to attract what they consider the best. I dont know the going rate for these 'stars' but understand they earn more with commercial broadcasters (I dont know that for a fact).

Like any other businesses there is competition for top quality employees. The BBC are not immune. I take your point that there will always be someone prepared do it for less.

Interesting theres been a bit of a stir on Twitter that Andrew Neils' contract has not been renewed.

[WanChaiMiller]

I’m not against paying less than £3 a week for public television. It doesn’t bother me personally either way. I rarely watch television. This is not because I’ve got better things to do with my precious time it is because terrestrial television is packed with the same:
Cooking programmes. 3/5 have them on at the same time on a Saturday morning.
Reality TV
Antiques
Following round emergency services
Following around debt collectors.

Where is the creative talent? Where is the variety? Where is the comedy?

Talent has been saturated to death on terrestrial telly by lazy, poor and cheap television for years.

If it wants to continue, it needs a massive overhaul.

Maybe the creative talent is being lured away by bigger contracts from commercial broadcasters.

[WanChaiMiller]

The BBC provides a public service and couldn't do that if it had to chase advertising revenues.

Take Radio 4 - not to everyone's taste, I know - but the dramas, debates and factual programmes on there are amazing. I would pay my licence fee for them alone, but the audiences are such that they could not be made on advertising revenues.

Look at some of the Attenborough style natural history programmes - cutting edge stuff that is hugely expensive, but so risky that I suspect a private advertising funded body would not make them.

Funding via licence allows the BBC to make niche programmes that nobody else would.

We should cherish what we have.

Im reading this thread in reverse. Totally agree with Kerr. Im a regular on radio 2 and 4 and 5Live.

I tend to prefer live football on radio to watching it on tv. TMS and boxing is excellent. The specialist pod cast type sports shows are equally good.

Radio and the web site is worth the licence fee alone.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Im reading this thread in reverse. Totally agree with Kerr. Im a regular on radio 2 and 4 and 5Live.

I tend to prefer live football on radio to watching it on tv. TMS and boxing is excellent. The specialist pod cast type sports shows are equally good.

Radio and the web site is worth the licence fee alone.

I too agree with this. I like Talksport in a morning, Radio 2 for the afternoon and Radio 6 in the evening and weekend. I watch PMQs on BBC Parliament every Wednesday and read the news and sport on the BBC website.

The Iplayer and BBC Bitesize are great resources for teaching and learning so I use them with my students when necessary and I catch MOTD on it which means I can FFW the talking.

Meaning I get good value for money but I can't help feeling it is a tax forced upon people that may not want to use it. Given the choice I would carry on paying it. I think if it went to a public vote the BBC would be no more.

[wendun]

I am completely against the licence fee on ideological grounds. The BBC is a pernicious organisation and I don't like being obliged to subsidise it. People have the wrong idea of "Auntie": believe me if you fall out with the BBC they can be a nasty vindictive bunch. A friend of mine sent in a drama on Bomber Command in WW2. No interest. Characters were "too white, too middle class." So we sent in a spoof outline about a group of black immigrants who impersonated a bomber crew and flew on a mission under a transgender lesbian pilot. When they realised they were supposed to bomb civilians in Dresden they aborted the raid and led the whole formation back to bomb Whitehall. The BBC immediately asked for a full work up on the project with a view to commissioning it for radio.