Interesting Covid statistic

[BCram]

No I never, I asked where your evidence was. Whether mutation or modification,you provided none,while condemning tainted for the same thing.

I think that is the key. I think Deeranged has made a valid point but if there isn't some scientific support for it then it would appear that he is mistaken. There nothing wrong in thinking for yourself and questioning authority IMO. I would prefer if Deeranged was mistaken in his views but I would be more upset if he were proved correct and long term harm were to be caused by the genetic engineering approach to the creation of vaccinations.

[Deeranged]

I think that is the key. I think Deeranged has made a valid point but if there isn't some scientific support for it then it would appear that he is mistaken. There nothing wrong in thinking for yourself and questioning authority IMO. I would prefer if Deeranged was mistaken in his views but I would be more upset if he were proved correct and long term harm were to be caused by the genetic engineering approach to the creation of vaccinations.

I'm not mistaken, I'm presenting a thought an opinion that is based on independent thought and fact, the fact being how the Pfizer vaccine functions to cause immunity. The fact is that it introduces mRNA which changes the coding of human DNA. That is all I'm saying, it cannot be refuted because that's how the thing works.

As regards Grantzer claiming I haven't presented any evidence - well that's probably indicative of how society functions these days, don't think for yourself and if there isn't a website that says it in a banner headline then it can't be true.

If anyone needs website evidence then read the one I posted a link to where it says

'Many standard vaccines work by injecting a dead or weakened form of the pathogen into the body in preparations that are designed not to make you sick but rather to build immunity. The key to building this immunity is that the portion of the pathogen called the antigen trains the immune system to recognise and respond to the infectious agent.

RNA vaccines work by introducing into the body a messenger RNA (mRNA) sequence that contains the genetic instructions for the vaccinated person’s own cells to produce the vaccine antigens and generate an immune response.'

If that doesn't say 'messing with DNA' to anyone then fair enough, they're entitled to their opinion based on their independent thought on the matter but it says just that to me. Sending externally produced genetic instructions for the cell to modify DNA to produce antigens - also known as genetic modification.

[Taintedice]

Read up on how the Pfizer, and any other mRNA vaccine works - it's not conspiracy theory, it's scientific fact. It's pretty much exactly as I've described in fact. More proof I suppose that something sticks during five years at University.

Although that link doesn't appear to back up your claim about the vaccine altering DNA and turning us all into morlocks, I read on IckeyDoesScience.com that it does, so you must be spot on. David Icke knows the truth, just avoid 5G masts if you don't want tracked. As for actual GM of humans, it's been happening for years, cystic fibrosis treatment for example. It's not actually a bad thing when used to treat diseases, not like humans are part of the food chain.

[Taintedice]

What website?

IckeyDoesScience.com

[Taintedice]

He doesn't have a website to refer to and simply suggested that my proposal regarding genetic modification was a conspiracy theory without evidence to back himself up - again.

Sad really.

It's your conspiracy theory ffs

[Taintedice]

RNA vaccines work by introducing into the body a messenger RNA (mRNA) sequence that contains the genetic instructions for the vaccinated person’s own cells to produce the vaccine antigens and generate an immune response.

How on earth do you conclude DNA is being altered from reading the above passage? I'm assuming this is all just you, you don't have anything scientific-research wise to back you up? Your entire take on this whole pandemic thing is 50 Shades Of Black Is White And White Is Black.

[grantzer]

[QUOTE=Deeranged;39648874]

As regards Grantzer claiming I haven't presented any evidence - well that's probably indicative of how society functions these days, don't think for yourself and if there isn't a website that says it in a banner headline then it can't be true.


I am not sure where this is going. All I meant was that if you think it's right that tainted has to provide evidence,then you should too. And if you are gonna cut and paste evidence,real evidence mind you, maybe credit whoever you are quoting. Surely even the open university teaches that?

[Deeranged]

To be fair,you posted your theory with a website to back you up, then when someone read that website and couldn't find anything to back up your theory,you backtracked. So your evidence to back up your genetic mutation theory is where?

No I never, I asked where your evidence was. Whether mutation or modification,you provided none,while condemning tainted for the same thing.

[QUOTE=grantzer;39648946]

As regards Grantzer claiming I haven't presented any evidence - well that's probably indicative of how society functions these days, don't think for yourself and if there isn't a website that says it in a banner headline then it can't be true.


I am not sure where this is going. All I meant was that if you think it's right that tainted has to provide evidence,then you should too. And if you are gonna cut and paste evidence,real evidence mind you, maybe credit whoever you are quoting. Surely even the open university teaches that?

Originally you acknowledged that I at least had a theory and posted a website to back it up noting that someone read the information linked and didn't see an issue, you also said my theory was of genetic mutation. Then you asked where my evidence was - I'd already posted it and you'd acknowledged it, albeit that it had been, quite rightly because that's what free thinking is all about, challenged.

It's not going anywhere, you either take my post for what it is, a postulation based on a worst case scenario, or you ignore it.

[grantzer]

[QUOTE=Deeranged;39648948]

Originally you acknowledged that I at least had a theory and posted a website to back it up noting that someone read the information linked and didn't see an issue, you also said my theory was of genetic mutation. Then you asked where my evidence was - I'd already posted it and you'd acknowledged it, albeit that it had been, quite rightly because that's what free thinking is all about, challenged.

It's not going anywhere, you either take my post for what it is, a postulation based on a worst case scenario, or you ignore it.

Long story short, you asked for evidence,but have none of your own? Apart from a website that didn't evidence the things you suggested...

I don't really care what you believe,but don't hold others to rules you won't follow yourself.

[Deeranged]

[QUOTE=grantzer;39648953]

Long story short, you asked for evidence,but have none of your own? Apart from a website that didn't evidence the things you suggested...

I don't really care what you believe,but don't hold others to rules you won't follow yourself.

Fair enough but end of the day I posted a link to a website that did actually give the evidence I stated, maybe it didn't give the detail or explain the background enough to give a full understanding.

I see Tainted did eventually give his source website as IckeyDoesScience.com which pretty much sums Tainted up to be fair. Doesn't have an argument to come back with so twists what people have said, accuses them of conspiracy theorising, throws in words like 'Morlock' and then gives a reference to some (presumably) non existent website. Doesn't even try to counter the argument, just muddies the water, no wonder he's such a big fan of Nicola and Donald.

As I said, sad really.