Thoughts on season

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not aimed at anyone - but Orta was directly responsible for

Bielsa
Rodrigo
Llorente
Koch

on any level good work fella. He also gets bonus points for the binoculars gag at Derby

Maybe not aimed at me, but did you think you'd get away with that unanswered?

Up to the point that Bielsa arrived (as I have assiduously documented in previous posts) Orta had presided over the most flagrant waste of club funds since the Ridsdale era. (I won't list all the dregs he brought to the club, there isn't enough space in the forum, but Sloth, Anita, Wiedewald are relevant examples). What role he had to play in persuading Bielsa to join the club, no-one, me, you no any other supporter outside the realms of our board of directors (assuming they are all supporters of course!) actually knows.

SINCE Bielsa arrived, our acquisitions have (mostly!) been more targeted and of better quality, although we have still managed some real bloopers (Koko, JKA). What role Orta played in selecting the players you mention is also unknown (do you genuinely think that unless Bielsa gave his blessing that ANY acquisition would take place?). As bag man, charged with making sure the figures stack up, Orta may have been of use, but identifying players who will be of value? Nah.

I did like the bit at Derby though, quite humorous (credit where credit is due!)

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Maybe not aimed at me, but did you think you'd get away with that unanswered?

Up to the point that Bielsa arrived (as I have assiduously documented in previous posts) Orta had presided over the most flagrant waste of club funds since the Ridsdale era. (I won't list all the dregs he brought to the club, there isn't enough space in the forum, but Sloth, Anita, Wiedewald are relevant examples). What role he had to play in persuading Bielsa to join the club, no-one, me, you no any other supporter outside the realms of our board of directors (assuming they are all supporters of course!) actually knows.

SINCE Bielsa arrived, our acquisitions have (mostly!) been more targeted and of better quality, although we have still managed some real bloopers (Koko, JKA). What role Orta played in selecting the players you mention is also unknown (do you genuinely think that unless Bielsa gave his blessing that ANY acquisition would take place?). As bag man, charged with making sure the figures stack up, Orta may have been of use, but identifying players who will be of value? Nah.

I did like the bit at Derby though, quite humorous (credit where credit is due!)

Did I think I ‘would get away with’ expressing an opinion - I forgot the thought police would have to disseminate it and use a self fulfilling echo chamber.

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Did I think I ‘would get away with’ expressing an opinion - I forgot the thought police would have to disseminate it and use a self fulfilling echo chamber.

So expressing an opinion, based on what? And you don't expect to be challenged? And since when do you think I set myself up as the "thought police"? (Given your pronouncements based on next to f00king nothing, I think the boot is most certainly on the other foot!).

as per other posters, you criticise the poster (and suggest what was posted shouldn't have been) as opposed to addressing the substance of the post itself (just to remind you, challenge on the role our DoF played in acquiring those you refer to), but hey, you knock yourself out.

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Based on next to nothing ..... err have you been at the Christmas sherry early.

Orta suggested Bielsa - Orta scouted Koch. Orta suggested Llorente and Rodrigo and went to Spain during CVD to get it done. He found, scoured and signed Meslier too.

He heads the team that brings in the younger players too and brought in lots of good young talent which even you though your see no light only shadow lenses seem to occasionally accept are good - Drameh, Geldhart, Greenwood, Jimmy to name but a few - Miller being another potential susperstar.

My opinion which you can’t change - I like Orta and think he is doing a good job and doesn’t get the credit for his good work whereas gets slated for any mistake.

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Based on next to nothing ..... err have you been at the Christmas sherry early.

Orta suggested Bielsa - Orta scouted Koch. Orta suggested Llorente and Rodrigo and went to Spain during CVD to get it done. He found, scoured and signed Meslier too.

He heads the team that brings in the younger players too and brought in lots of good young talent which even you though your see no light only shadow lenses seem to occasionally accept are good - Drameh, Geldhart, Greenwood, Jimmy to name but a few - Miller being another potential susperstar.

My opinion which you can’t change - I like Orta and think he is doing a good job and doesn’t get the credit for his good work whereas gets slated for any mistake.

So, BB suggests I'm on drugs, and you suggest I'm an alcoholic, ALWA yeah?

On what basis do you arrive at the statement of FACT that Orta "suggested Bielsa"? Please provide the evidence for that statement?

On what basis do you arrive at the statement of FACT that Orta "suggested Llorente and Rodrigo" and "scoured" (sic) Meslier). Please provide evidence of him being more than the bag carrier (which any fool with the right direction can do)?

"He heads the team"????? And you suggest I'm an alcoholic and BB suggest I'm a drug abuser!!!! He's as much a team player as Donald Trump! And yet again, you fail to answer my question (how surprising) about whether ANY transfer would take place without the sanction of our Head coach. Not surprised at the lack of response, just a tad disappointed.

None are so blind as those who will not see. If Orta was to be unequivocally responsible for anything at Leeds I would be the first to congratulate him (as I did with the binoculars stunt at Derby), but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that rarest of spectacles (see what I did there?) to happen.

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So, BB suggests I'm on drugs, and you suggest I'm an alcoholic, ALWA yeah?

On what basis do you arrive at the statement of FACT that Orta "suggested Bielsa"? Please provide the evidence for that statement?

On what basis do you arrive at the statement of FACT that Orta "suggested Llorente and Rodrigo" and "scoured" (sic) Meslier). Please provide evidence of him being more than the bag carrier (which any fool with the right direction can do)?

"He heads the team"????? And you suggest I'm an alcoholic and BB suggest I'm a drug abuser!!!! He's as much a team player as Donald Trump! And yet again, you fail to answer my question (how surprising) about whether ANY transfer would take place without the sanction of our Head coach. Not surprised at the lack of response, just a tad disappointed.

None are so blind as those who will not see. If Orta was to be unequivocally responsible for anything at Leeds I would be the first to congratulate him (as I did with the binoculars stunt at Derby), but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that rarest of spectacles (see what I did there?) to happen.

Have you watched the Take Us Home series - Angus Kinnear and Radz both state it - good enough for you!

You really are a sensitive snowflake - I suggested your logic was so crap you must have been at the Sherry not that you are an alcoholic - hey ho why let what people say get on the way of the fantasy that plays out in your mind.

PS Rev wherever you are come back ......

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A lot of the stuff you say I don’t disagree with it’s when you seem determined to question people or prove they are wrong - I get you disagree and that it fine!

We just need better players and then the score today would have been 7 - 4 to us

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Have you watched the Take Us Home series - Angus Kinnear and Radz both state it - good enough for you!

You really are a sensitive snowflake - I suggested your logic was so crap you must have been at the Sherry not that you are an alcoholic - hey ho why let what people say get on the way of the fantasy that plays out in your mind.

PS Rev wherever you are come back ......

A "sensitive snowflake", so now as well as alcoholic (sherry, at 4.30 on a Sunday afternoon = alcoholic), drug addict, I'm some kind of thin-skinned effete youngster? Others have suggested much the same. I can confirm I have a hide thicker than a very aged, very bitter, very worldly-wise rhinoceros.

My "logic" is based on some resemblance of fact, availability of evidence, and the dependence on fact in terms of forming opinion, unlike you (and others) who have "faith", good luck with that (when it comes to football or anything else).

Do I care what Kinnear or Radrizzani SAY?????? Not for one f00king moment. I CARE about what they DO

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A lot of the stuff you say I don’t disagree with it’s when you seem determined to question people or prove they are wrong - I get you disagree and that it fine!

We just need better players and then the score today would have been 7 - 4 to us

I question when someone makes a statement (an opinion") as things were documented, evidenced fact, without a single shred of evidence (the b0ll0x about Orta for instance). Please provide and I will gladly eat humble pie. I base my opinions on evidence, not some mystical "faith"

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Have you watched the Take Us Home series - Angus Kinnear and Radz both state it - good enough for you!

You really are a sensitive snowflake - I suggested your logic was so crap you must have been at the Sherry not that you are an alcoholic - hey ho why let what people say get on the way of the fantasy that plays out in your mind.

PS Rev wherever you are come back ......

Answer ANY of the challenges/questions I put to you in post #45, please.