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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Do I have to describe everything in painstaking detail for you. I guess I do..

    'Do you refute the point'
    That the EU has greater buying and negotiating power then the UK,
    Not do you refute their population is 6.5x or 8x..

    As an expert on all things in European trade. Can you tell me when the situation will improve? As I don't remember you pre-warning us of this disruption one month in? It should be quite easy as you know exactly what you have voted for.

    The EU isn't perfect. So I guess you're saying the UK is? Great, who do we hold responsible for this mess? Who in the UK is responsible for UK business losing customers and facing border delays? As we are now in 'control' this should be quite an easy question for you to answer.

    If you want to be able to trading freely with Europe as we did as members of the EEC, then why vote Leave? Its just quite bizarre and stupid. We have far more benefits of the EEC being a member of the EU than not.

    Feel free to answer any of my questions above..
    In my opinion the EU being the top heavy bureaucracy that it is, whilst it may have on paper better buying power their one size fits all policy ensures they will never deliver to the specific needs of individual states, leading to a lowest common denominator outcome. Look at the issues with the common policies on agriculture, finance and production, that tied in with the time they take to deliver any trade agreements due to the above bureaucracy should mean that we can nip in ahead of them as we did with vaccines and beat them to the market every time. Being dynamic in business having the ability to quickly adapt to change is something the EU will never be able to do, tie that in with the large scale corruption that is rife in many member states with little upward accountability, in 5 years time we should really be able to see the benefits. Things will be up and down for a while but we have brilliant business minds in the UK and they will sniff out and react to opportunity far quicker than some bureaucrat could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP67 is back! View Post
    In my opinion the EU being the top heavy bureaucracy that it is, whilst it may have on paper better buying power their one size fits all policy ensures they will never deliver to the specific needs of individual states, leading to a lowest common denominator outcome. Look at the issues with the common policies on agriculture, finance and production, that tied in with the time they take to deliver any trade agreements due to the above bureaucracy should mean that we can nip in ahead of them as we did with vaccines and beat them to the market every time. Being dynamic in business having the ability to quickly adapt to change is something the EU will never be able to do, tie that in with the large scale corruption that is rife in many member states with little upward accountability, in 5 years time we should really be able to see the benefits. Things will be up and down for a while but we have brilliant business minds in the UK and they will sniff out and react to opportunity far quicker than some bureaucrat could.
    I genuinely, 100% hope you are right

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    When the EU has gone this will all be irrelevant. It will go. Unless it starts taking notice of its inhabitants and learns what compromise means. No sign of that whatsoever. It’s the weirdest of monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingy View Post
    When the EU has gone this will all be irrelevant. It will go. Unless it starts taking notice of its inhabitants and learns what compromise means. No sign of that whatsoever. It’s the weirdest of monsters.
    Not if but when it goes further away we are the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingy View Post
    When the EU has gone this will all be irrelevant. It will go. Unless it starts taking notice of its inhabitants and learns what compromise means. No sign of that whatsoever. It’s the weirdest of monsters.
    I think there is a much stronger chance the UK breaks up because of Brexit,

    Let's see..

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    I still believe that there are many countries who are waiting to see whether the UK benefits from leaving, then they will make a rush to the door. By the end of this decade, the EU will be consigned to the history books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    I think there is a much stronger chance the UK breaks up because of Brexit,

    Let's see..
    Would this be a bad thing? Just asking as the way I see it the subsidies we pay to Scotland far outweighs the benefit to the rest of the UK, if they want to join an even larger bloc with less of a say then let them go, oil and gas are fast becoming fuels of the past and revenues are not what they once were, anyway I think they would struggle and fast become the beggars of Europe..

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    I think Nicola Sturgeon is using any differences she can between us to break free. If England had voted to remain and Scotland to leave she would have ceased on that. She only has one agenda.
    She is Anti Tory , Anti Labour, Anti Westminster in fact Anti English
    If she thinks that Leaving the UK and joining the EU will bestow fortune on their country like some of the Baltic States then she better think again. Those days have now gone with the UK out.

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    I hope the Scots do get independence.

    We can then abandon changing the clocks in winter to accommodate that cave dwelling bunch of inbreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    I hope the Scots do get independence.

    We can then abandon changing the clocks in winter to accommodate that cave dwelling bunch of inbreds.
    Dont Hold Back MickD
    Mind you even the mighty Roman Empire gave up on them and built a wall to keep them out !

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