Derby to stop taking the knee.....

[Trickytreesreds]

And as I have said before, why are the pyramids allowed to stand?
They were built under the oppression of a whole race.
But no one mentions that, just how glorious these feats of engineering are.
It is probably the worst form of racial oppression known and at the heart of a religion.

My point is, no one can change that. It is done and dusted.
Colstons statue, shouldn't have been ripped down. His money was spent on lots of things in Bristol. A re education programme was more than adequate, in the form of plaques explaining where his money came from.

The focus of discontent from BLM in the UK, in focussed on Britians colonial past etc.
I get that, it isn't all pretty but again, it is done.

However, if we want to be specific, how far back does this outrage want to go?
2000 Years before the Empire was involved in the slave trade, the worst offenders for slavery were the arab nations and North Africa.
Europeans were and have been taken frequently and were referred to as "white gold".

A little readng for you RA........ two sides to every outrage,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/White-Gold-.../dp/0340794704

[ramAnag]

Tricky...two wrongs do not make a right and I have never ever suggested some simplistic nonsense about white = bad and black = good.
I don’t doubt for a moment that wrongdoers come from every colour and creed but in this instance we are dealing with our own British history which we do have some influence over.
What you appear not to know is that, in the case of Colston...when a corrective plaque was designed, explaining the numbers of black slaves that had been transported by Colston, the number that had died and the fact that only those in Bristol who subscribed to Colston’s political and religious beliefs were allowed to benefit from his ‘generosity’...it was opposed by a Tory councillor called Richard Eddy who suggested that it should be vandalised.
One rule for one....

[swaledale]

Tricky...two wrongs do not make a right and I have never ever suggested some simplistic nonsense about white = bad and black = good.
I don’t doubt for a moment that wrongdoers come from every colour and creed but in this instance we are dealing with our own British history which we do have some influence over.
What you appear not to know is that, in the case of Colston...when a corrective plaque was designed, explaining the numbers of black slaves that had been transported by Colston, the number that had died and the fact that only those in Bristol who subscribed to Colston’s political and religious beliefs were allowed to benefit from his ‘generosity’...it was opposed by a Tory councillor called Richard Eddy who suggested that it should be vandalised.
One rule for one....

Your wasting your time even having a debate rA! I've taken your advice and stopped reading or for the most part acknowledging the ****s existence!

[swaledale]

ALLEGEDLY

Fanta was created for Nazi Germany when they could not obtain Coke during WW2;
Hugo Boss was a member of the Nazi party and designed/produced uniforms for the SS and Hitler Youth;
Nestle and other companies used slave labour provided by the Germans;
Barclays bank handed over details of jewish employees to the authorities

Plus countless German companies will have collaborated with the nazi rulers.

History doesnt seem to have judged them, history does not stigmatise them. Could it be because the victims were not black? Im not supporting slavery or its proponents, but slavery is far from unique to the black community. Its a crime against humanity, not something to be culturally appropriated.

I know two rights dont make a wrong, but when one pulls down former slave owners statues whilst perhaps sipping your Fanta orange, nibbling on your kitkat, parading your Boss designer clothes and using your Barclaycard, do you not get the irony?

And it was the British that invented the "concentration camp" and rounding up and imprisoning women and children as a way of repressing the local population of whatever country we were invading at the time"

Your right GP, rather than pointless virtue signalling and righteous indignation, there needs to be a greater explanation of history set in context so that todays and future generations can understand what happened and why.

[Andy_Faber]

Your right GP, rather than pointless virtue signalling and righteous indignation, there needs to be a greater explanation of history set in context so that todays and future generations can understand what happened and why.

Bunting out time again, I totaly agree with that, but who sets the syllabus?

[Andy_Faber]

Arrrrrrrr, but you conveniently missed out the ones attacked like Churchill etc.
These same "activists" want Nelson removed etc.

So to pacify a minority, will we be re writing all history?
After watching DR Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, attack the queen and UK yesterday. Calling the monachy and the country, based on slavery, colonialism, hate and oppression. I can only conclude that a fraction with these borders want, our whole culture disassembled and tone of shame forced on the population.

Perhaps these people forget, the Queen is head of the Commonwealth and very proud of it.
I see division and hate alright, but it certainly doesn't all come from the side being portrayed.

Thankfully, most of the U.K. appear to have seen through the Markels’ stunt, check out the Yougov poll on the subject

[Geoff Parkstone]

And it was the British that invented the "concentration camp" and rounding up and imprisoning women and children as a way of repressing the local population of whatever country we were invading at the time"

Your right GP, rather than pointless virtue signalling and righteous indignation, there needs to be a greater explanation of history set in context so that todays and future generations can understand what happened and why.

First concentration camps established by British in South Africa during the boer war: what is less known is that we also shipped boer war pow's to Bermuda for incarceration - over 2000 on various small islands. Could think of worse places to have to go.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Thankfully, most of the U.K. appear to have seen through the Markels’ stunt, check out the Yougov poll on the subject

There's something about having the letters M, R, K, E and L in your name which makes one have a go at British institutions. Wonder if they are distantly related

[Trickytreesreds]

Thankfully, most of the U.K. appear to have seen through the Markels’ stunt, check out the Yougov poll on the subject

I saw it mucker.

But this needs major attention now. The race baiting and race card is being used so much now. It has worn very thin with folks and also is fuelling a divide.
Last night was not really just a Royal family bash, it was a pick a side situation.
Either you agree with Markels claims about constant racism, or you don't and back the Queens side.

What was said offended a lot of people on one side and fired up another side.
That is the whole thing about bending the knee for me. It is something, that has worked over here because an American police problem.
The football league had a race equality system in place "lets kick it out"
Now that gets shelved and the BLM salute takes its place. I'm sorry, but the kick it out campaign covered all ethnicitys, now its a black lives matter voice?
Fuel fuel fuel. People like Markel give it oxygen. All we are missing now is a spark.

Is it going to ignite then?

[MadAmster]

I saw it mucker.

But this needs major attention now. The race baiting and race card is being used so much now. It has worn very thin with folks and also is fuelling a divide.
Last night was not really just a Royal family bash, it was a pick a side situation.
Either you agree with Markels claims about constant racism, or you don't and back the Queens side.

What was said offended a lot of people on one side and fired up another side.
That is the whole thing about bending the knee for me. It is something, that has worked over here because an American police problem.
The football league had a race equality system in place "lets kick it out"
Now that gets shelved and the BLM salute takes its place. I'm sorry, but the kick it out campaign covered all ethnicitys, now its a black lives matter voice?
Fuel fuel fuel. People like Markel give it oxygen. All we are missing now is a spark.

Is it going to ignite then?

I saw part of it and both MM and Harry spoke very highly of the Queen. Neither of them appointed any blame at the Queen.