Some Interesting Facts Emerging About PMG

[EastStandRed]

It’s brilliant this debate in it !!!
Loving it.

Nar then ….. a bit of copy and paste …

French Ligue 1 club Nice has been bought by Ineos, the chemical company founded by British billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
Ratcliffe, who is Britain's third richest man, had reportedly made a €100m (£88.77m) offer for the club earlier this year.

I’d be over the moon - even if the club sold its best players before agreeing to sell the club to someone like this.

As for investment into the club.
They cleared the deck - including the manager Hecky - when these owners first arrived.
And then set about introducing young players and managers that could play a high pressing game.

Excluding the wages being paid out - let’s have a list of players and what they were reportedly cost (£M)
Kane 1.2
Benson 1
Odour 0.3
Wilks 1
Helik 0.8
Britton 0.3
Morris 0.35
Frieser 0.8
Halme 0.65
Mads 0.5
Leya 1.7
Obbi 1.2
Styles 0.4
Kitchen 0.6
…….. etc etc etc

Look down the list of signings since these owners arrived and there is a long list of players - most of them costing between £300k to about £1.5 million.

Some will dispute those figures - there’s only people at the club that know the actual price - but the principle thing here is that we have never seen so many quality players brought in that have cost this sort of money.

Sales …….
Brown 2
Kieffer 2
Potts 2

They’ve only not sold anymore of the squad because no one has put offers in for them.

I was speaking with someone who works for Oostende on Sunday

He said they had a great season last year and then the consortium sold all the players they got an offer for. The feeling there is that Conway especially only cares about making money, it is the only thing that counts for them with no regard for the club’s history or fans.

He could have been talking word for word about Barnsley except Conway has already clashed with the president of their fans but we don’t seem to have got that far yet as the little get together here are all backslapping nonsense

[SBRed48]

Don't forget sales of Pinnock 3mill
Lindsay £2 mill
Chaplin £,0 .8 mill
Wilks0 ?

Is the argument that the owners have invested all the
money for incoming transfers you listed? All came from the clubs account

[animallittle3]

😂😂😂
Tha can only report whats been reported.
Come on Animal - I’m relying on thi - or tuthers that see these owners as not wanting to build something at the club - to come back and disprove my argument.

Myself and others on here are continuously proving PMG haven't improved anything through the facts and where the club stands right now .

You've yet to come up with anything of substance to support your views other than a disturbing cult mindset and a lack of an appetite to reply to the facts presented to you .

The very best that you can present are figures by your own admission that are purely guess work .

A schoolboy type fantasy of new stadiums or stands funded by fairies at the bottom of your garden .

But you did shake hands with these people and welcome them to the club which appears to cut through logic .

If you want to pour petrol over yourself and light a match because the cult leader demands you do then there's nothing really much else I can say .

The sad thing is I want you to be right about all of this .

Unfortunately the facts are against you .

[Young_Nudger]

They’ve only not sold anymore of the squad because no one has put offers in for them.

I was speaking with someone who works for Oostende on Sunday

He said they had a great season last year and then the consortium sold all the players they got an offer for. The feeling there is that Conway especially only cares about making money, it is the only thing that counts for them with no regard for the club’s history or fans.

He could have been talking word for word about Barnsley except Conway has already clashed with the president of their fans but we don’t seem to have got that far yet as the little get together here are all backslapping nonsense

What you have described there - I’m expecting it at Barnsley.
The squad was more or less brought in on batches - that is to say quite a few players brought in at the same time.
I don’t know the details but I’d expect most of the contracts had a similar shelve life.
I can’t see these players being allowed to run their contracts down like Mowatt did.
They won’t be allowed to walk away for nowt.
So I’m expecting if they won’t sign an extension they will be sold.
That could mean quite a few players sold at the same time.
And as been described - Paul Conway doesn’t wait for a buyer to come in - he actually phones other clubs up to offer the player.
It’s going to hit the fan when this happens.
Huge unrest amongst supporters.
But this is part of the strategy. Sell and reinvest.

[animallittle3]

What you have described there - I’m expecting it at Barnsley.
The squad was more or less brought in on batches - that is to say quite a few players brought in at the same time.
I don’t know the details but I’d expect most of the contracts had a similar shelve life.
I can’t see these players being allowed to run their contracts down like Mowatt did.
They won’t be allowed to walk away for nowt.
So I’m expecting if they won’t sign an extension they will be sold.
That could mean quite a few players sold at the same time.
And as been described - Paul Conway doesn’t wait for a buyer to come in - he actually phones other clubs up to offer the player.
It’s going to hit the fan when this happens.
Huge unrest amongst supporters.
But this is part of the strategy. Sell and reinvest.

It's going to hit the fan ?

Despite the fact the club since 1887 has always sold its better players .

Sell and reinvest ?

That's probably the same model it always was through Robledo , Tommy Taylor , Pat Howard , little Anton , Carl Tiler , Ashley Ward to Ethan Pinnock .

Somehow this is different right ?

Well not really , it sells and muddles on and it's the same club it always was .

Start buying players for three and four million and knock them on for 12 to 15 million then we are in game changing territory .

Until then , it's rinse and repeat ...... Since 1887 .

The proof is in the pudding .

[EthelRed]

Nudge, have the current owners paid the agreed price to purchase the football club from the crynes or not?

[Young_Nudger]

It's going to hit the fan ?

Despite the fact the club since 1887 has always sold its better players .

Sell and reinvest ?

That's probably the same model it always was through Robledo , Tommy Taylor , Pat Howard , little Anton , Carl Tiler , Ashley Ward to Ethan Pinnock .

Somehow this is different right ?

Well not really , it sells and muddles on and it's the same club it always was .

Start buying players for three and four million and knock them on for 12 to 15 million then we are in game changing territory .

Until then , it's rinse and repeat ...... Since 1887 .

The proof is in the pudding .

No - that’s not what I’m talking about - it’s not what has happened at Oostende apparently.
I’m not talking single players - I’m talking a small batch of players eg 3+

[animallittle3]

No - that’s not what I’m talking about - it’s not what has happened at Oostende apparently.
I’m not talking single players - I’m talking a small batch of players eg 3+

You mean like Hourihane , Winnall , James Bree in 2017 ?

Pinnock , Lindsay and Moore in 2019 ?

Took us to another level didn't it ?

League One mind in 2018 and almost in 2020 but for Wigan's points deduction .

We still await the great leap forward with this model .

Ain't facts terrible Nudge ?

[BarnsleyDaft]

If it wasnt for Bradley we would be behind Derby on 0 points

[Young_Nudger]

You mean like Hourihane , Winnall , James Bree in 2017 ?

Pinnock , Lindsay and Moore in 2019 ?

Took us to another level didn't it ?

League One mind in 2018 and almost in 2020 but for Wigan's points deduction .

We still await the great leap forward with this model .

Ain't facts terrible Nudge ?

Yes - very much on those lines.
The January 2017 fire sale will live long in the memory.
Patrick Cryne selling off players before he sold the club.
Same as what these owners did at Nice - so we can’t really point the finger at the owners of a foreign club when our past owners have done exactly the same.
And what a time for Patrick to put EIGHT
players up for sale.
We were a point away from the playoffs and the momentum was with us - Very good chance Hecky would have got us promotion that season.
But looking back - I don’t blame Patrick because he had to recoup some of the money he spent at the club.
So neither can we blame these owners for what
happened at Nice.

The 2019 sale is more similar to what I assume has happened at Oostende.
Although Pinnock and Lindsay wanted to leave.
I don’t think Kieffer did - and IMO the sale of Kieffer is one of the biggest mistakes the club has made in recent years.
That sale nearly cost us relegation the season after.
And could you imagine Kieffer in the Ismael team of last season.
Exactly the type of striker Ismael likes - and exactly the type of striker we are missing right now.

Also worth mentioning they sold Potts in that season - January 2019.
This was another big mistake by these owners.
Selling an important player in January when you are either in a relegation or promotion battle is a bad move.

Just to add - they thought Brown could fill the boots of Potts.’
In my view - he never did - because Brown isn’t a natural goal scorer.
IMO Brown is more of a wing back.
I like Brittain - we picked up another bargin there.
But Brown is quicker, taller and stronger than Brittain.
Last season - imagine Kieffer up front and Brown as the right wing back.
Those 2 could have added that little bit extra what was needed to get us over the line.

PS - great posts Animal - so why add barbs to them?