It’s here again covid at the club

[Grumpy King of the West]

I think it's down to complacency, not just in football but everywhere in life. Thankfully Omicron is 'mild' but who knows what the next mutation will bring.

Listening to a top virologist yesterday Cam and he reckons we could be entering the end game. He said that viruses, indeed all genetic entities (our cells included), constantly mutate. In a nutshell that's what evolution is. It's only when a mutation offers a clear advantage, by pure chance, that it becomes dominant.

Omicron has mutated to become more transmissible (simply by accidentally mutating additional spike proteins which bind onto our cells) but causing less illness, and death. In evolutionary terms that's a huge "win" for the virus because by causing milder illness it's hosts go about their daily lives and thus take the virus out and about further afield. The additional spike proteins ensure it infects all it comes into contact with. By sheer weight of numbers it will ultimately dominate other covid strains and eventually settle into being symbiotic with humanity.

Ultimately it ends up endemic, not pandemic, and is viewed much as influenza. It's here to stay and will join it's coronavirus cousins that we have lived with for years (which, along with the rhinovirus cause the common cold).

History will view the episode as a score draw between covid and humanity.

[flourbasher]

It would be nice if some clubs took a stance and stopped selecting their unvaxed players and banned them from their premises because they are putting their fellow employees lives at risk.

Unlikely to happen though and an Employment Law minefield

[millertop]

What are these tests actually picking up? I do one every week sometimes more depending how I feel, had a cold so did more test all negative but some people with same symptoms get positive 🤷

Also it’s that time of year like every other year when there’s a flu/colds going about and hospitals get busy

Someone needs to stop with the scare tactics 🤬

[millertop]

It would be nice if some clubs took a stance and stopped selecting their unvaxed players and banned them from their premises because they are putting their fellow employees lives at risk.

Unlikely to happen though and an Employment Law minefield

Yes a question I asked earlier if they stay separate except on pitch on game day

[fc_miller]

Listening to a top virologist yesterday Cam and he reckons we could be entering the end game. He said that viruses, indeed all genetic entities (our cells included), constantly mutate. In a nutshell that's what evolution is. It's only when a mutation offers a clear advantage, by pure chance, that it becomes dominant.

Omicron has mutated to become more transmissible (simply by accidentally mutating additional spike proteins which bind onto our cells) but causing less illness, and death. In evolutionary terms that's a huge "win" for the virus because by causing milder illness it's hosts go about their daily lives and thus take the virus out and about further afield. The additional spike proteins ensure it infects all it comes into contact with. By sheer weight of numbers it will ultimately dominate other covid strains and eventually settle into being symbiotic with humanity.

Ultimately it ends up endemic, not pandemic, and is viewed much as influenza. It's here to stay and will join it's coronavirus cousins that we have lived with for years (which, along with the rhinovirus cause the common cold).

History will view the episode as a score draw between covid and humanity.

Sounds like the next plan could be to move to herd immunity and a few mass spreader events.

[Ronners]

It would be nice if some clubs took a stance and stopped selecting their unvaxed players and banned them from their premises because they are putting their fellow employees lives at risk.

Unlikely to happen though and an Employment Law minefield

Why are unvaxed players putting their fellow employees at risk flour? Anyone who's had all the jabs they can have, can still catch the virus, just like I did, so by refusing to have any of the vaccines, then surely the only people they are putting at risk is themselves?. UTM

[flourbasher]

More people who have the vax lowers the risk Ronners. Less people who have the vax increases the risk.
25% unvaxed is a very high proportion to be mixing with
The analogy would be if anyone were content to allow unvaxed people into your house for Xmas day.
We’re not, they’re banned

[Ronners]

What are these tests actually picking up? I do one every week sometimes more depending how I feel, had a cold so did more test all negative but some people with same symptoms get positive 🤷

Also it’s that time of year like every other year when there’s a flu/colds going about and hospitals get busy

Someone needs to stop with the scare tactics 🤬

That's a good question topsy regarding flu/colds going about, because I've had 2 lateral flow tests which one was positive and the other was negative, but it was my first one that was positive so I went and had a PCR test which was also positive.
If my first lateral flow test had been negative I wouldn't have had a PCR test, and even now I dont feel that badly, i have no cough, no temperature and my taste and smell are fine so could I have just had a small bout of cold/flu that has produced a false positive covid result? Can the PCR test differentiate between cold/flu/ covid?

[millertop]

That's a good question topsy regarding flu/colds going about, because I've had 2 lateral flow tests which one was positive and the other was negative, but it was my first one that was positive so I went and had a PCR test which was also positive.
If my first lateral flow test had been negative I wouldn't have had a PCR test, and even now I dont feel that badly, i have no cough, no temperature and my taste and smell are fine so could I have just had a small bout of cold/flu that has produced a false positive covid result? Can the PCR test differentiate between cold/flu/ covid?

Yep that’s what I’m wondering, I bet there’s a lot spreading it unawares or someone has set panic in when no need

[ragingpup]

That's a good question topsy regarding flu/colds going about, because I've had 2 lateral flow tests which one was positive and the other was negative, but it was my first one that was positive so I went and had a PCR test which was also positive.
If my first lateral flow test had been negative I wouldn't have had a PCR test, and even now I dont feel that badly, i have no cough, no temperature and my taste and smell are fine so could I have just had a small bout of cold/flu that has produced a false positive covid result? Can the PCR test differentiate between cold/flu/ covid?

I think it can Ronners. The new strain has different symptoms to the delta variant, with less of the smell/taste sypmtoms and more coldvirus lie with sore throat/headaches. A PCR should only detect covid specifically and although not infallable, has very high accuracy rates as far as I'm aware. Get well soon pal