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[Elite_Pie]

I'm fine with the owners, especially in view of the (repeated) chaos that went before.

That might be part of the problem. In recent years we have had such a shower of sh!t on and off the pitch that average now seems good!

So far our owners have given us the fabled 'stability' many craved for, but so far we have become a stable non-league club.

[Notts78]

Wouldn't be surprised if somebody or a group were watching Notts to be honest

Who were the chaps sat with the bros last night? They normally sit with each other but last night were sat a row apart.

[laddo]

That might be part of the problem. In recent years we have had such a shower of sh!t on and off the pitch that average now seems good!

So far our owners have given us the fabled 'stability' many craved for, but so far we have become a stable non-league club.

Don't forget the chaos caused us to be a non-league club, not one manager as was strongly and repeatedly stated by a few.

[irishpete]

Who were the chaps sat with the bros last night? They normally sit with each other but last night were sat a row apart.

What i saw on tv was Turner sat next to one & would imagine the other was the bloke who joined the club with the brothers

[matt_magpie]

That might be part of the problem. In recent years we have had such a shower of sh!t on and off the pitch that average now seems good!

So far our owners have given us the fabled 'stability' many craved for, but so far we have become a stable non-league club.

Very true, but it’s not out the question if we’d had similar past owners or to other clubs we could now be relegated or liquidated. Many won’t like the approach and we all feel frustrated we’re still in this league, unfortunately patience is the game, look at Luton now who have always ran a steady ship, their owner said he would rather have a club than worry too much what league they were in. The trouble with patience in football, is it’s literally years, I would suggest to most just try and enjoy it whatever league we're in, that is the idea of going to games and supporting your club, as painful as it maybe at times.

[jackal2]

Very true, but it’s not out the question if we’d had similar past owners or to other clubs we could now be relegated or liquidated. Many won’t like the approach and we all feel frustrated we’re still in this league, unfortunately patience is the game, look at Luton now who have always ran a steady ship, their owner said he would rather have a club than worry too much what league they were in. The trouble with patience in football, is it’s literally years, I would suggest to most just try and enjoy it whatever league we're in, that is the idea of going to games and supporting your club, as painful as it maybe at times.

Quite. No matter how long it takes, if your club is financially stable you're always going to have a better foundation on which to build, even if it takes a long time. Those clubs that splash cash they can't afford may (or may not) get success in the short term, but somewhere down the line those bills come in from the taxman and elsewhere, and you end up worse off than you started, if you're still around at all.

[laddo]

Exactly, NCFC in the past decade is a prime example. Short term gain for long term pain.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Very true, but it’s not out the question if we’d had similar past owners or to other clubs we could now be relegated or liquidated. Many won’t like the approach and we all feel frustrated we’re still in this league, unfortunately patience is the game, look at Luton now who have always ran a steady ship, their owner said he would rather have a club than worry too much what league they were in. The trouble with patience in football, is it’s literally years, I would suggest to most just try and enjoy it whatever league we're in, that is the idea of going to games and supporting your club, as painful as it maybe at times.

Luton are the ones we should take hope and faith from that we can and will rise again. They spent three seasons at this level finishing 5th, 7th and then 1st.

Yes it’s disappointing and frustrating that three times we’ve fallen at all levels of the playoffs the final, semi and now quarter stages but we are not that far off. 82 points from a 44 game season is really good. We were only two wins short of the magic 2 points a game which normally would be enough to win the title. It’s only due to the machine that Dave Challinor made Stockport that big spending Wrexham haven’t won the title and they’ve pushed them all way. Likewise Neal Ardley has done an excellent job at Solihull Moors as did 38 year old Pete Wilde the manager of Halifax (worth a look if IB goes?) . The competition this season has been fierce and whilst it’s tough due to only one automatic promotion space it’s been even tougher which such a strong group of seven teams. Grimsby and Cheaterfurlough have all led the pack.

Apprenticeships usually last four years. I’ve always seen it that our owners are on an apprenticeship with the club while we are in non-league learning their trade. They are now three years in. With each passing season they learn more and become more experienced and therefore better owners.

I would suspect that this season will be completely analysed and this is where I’m looking forward to us addressing our shortcomings over the next two months (as the season starts early) ready for an assault on the title next season.

[Notts78]

Luton are the ones we should take hope and faith from that we can and will rise again. They spent three seasons at this level finishing 5th, 7th and then 1st.

Yes it’s disappointing and frustrating that three times we’ve fallen at all levels of the playoffs the final, semi and now quarter stages but we are not that far off. 82 points from a 44 game season is really good. We were only two wins short of the magic 2 points a game which normally would be enough to win the title. It’s only due to the machine that Dave Challinor made Stockport that big spending Wrexham haven’t won the title and they’ve pushed them all way. Likewise Neal Ardley has done an excellent job at Solihull Moors as did 38 year old Pete Wilde the manager of Halifax (worth a look if IB goes?) . The competition this season has been fierce and whilst it’s tough due to only one automatic promotion space it’s been even tougher which such a strong group of seven teams. Grimsby and Cheaterfurlough have all led the pack.

Apprenticeships usually last four years. I’ve always seen it that our owners are on an apprenticeship with the club while we are in non-league learning their trade. They are now three years in. With each passing season they learn more and become more experienced and therefore better owners.

I would suspect that this season will be completely analysed and this is where I’m looking forward to us addressing our shortcomings over the next two months (as the season starts early) ready for an assault on the title next season.

Stockport retained the bulk of their squad after a failed playoff campaign last season and strengthened. It wasn’t a a silly scatter gun approach and hope for the best. The stand out being Sarvovic and subsequently Challinor. The fact is they retained the core of the squad knowing there were only a few pieces missing. Look at the improvement.
Simply speaking we should keep who we can. Unless we get a silly offer we need to retain Ruben and build the team around him.

[jackal2]

Stockport retained the bulk of their squad after a failed playoff campaign last season and strengthened. It wasn’t a a silly scatter gun approach and hope for the best. The stand out being Sarvovic and subsequently Challinor. The fact is they retained the core of the squad knowing there were only a few pieces missing. Look at the improvement. Simply speaking we should keep who we can. Unless we get a silly offer we need to retain Ruben and build the team around him.

Agreed. The talk of 'major surgery' would be understandable if we'd just been relegated but we finished 12 points off the top and 6 points behind second place, and both of those teams spent heavily. Unlike in the past, the fundamental problem is not with the players we've got, it's with the players we're still missing i.e. height, strength, aggression and dominant personality in midfield. Stick the current equivalents of Neal Bishop and Ricky Ravenhill (or Paul Harding) in our midfield and you've got the missing ingredient.