Do The Owners Ambitions Match The Supporters'?

[Jampie]

Bingo.

However with this in mind I am surprised they didn’t want to retain IB as each change represents a risk (albeit also an opportunity).

I suppose we will be able to analyse this come Xmas!

Yeah losing him is a big hit to the organisation, but they would have had little choice but to let him go. Keeping him here would not be acting in his best interests which is unethical at best.

His (brief) career here, on the other hand, just changed this place from a club where managers' careers take a nosedive (or die), to one where you can jump up two leagues. That should help them recruit the next one.

[durhampie]

They let him go because he had failed to take us to the next level. At least it saved them from having to sack him..

[drillerpie]

I think the owners' ambition does match the supporters' ambition, to want to get back into the Football League and then build further.

What they aren't doing is gambling silly money we cannot afford, all on one season, which has no guarantee of success and would leave us with an unsustainable budget well into the future. We've been down that route before and we know where it leads, regardless of whether you get the immediate promotion or not.

I think the aim of the owners is to maintain a sustainable but competitive playing budget on an ongoing basis, so we're always there or thereabouts in the promotion mix. It then comes down to the skill of the manager, plus a little bit of luck with injuries and suspensions, to push us over the line. Neal Ardley and Ian Burchnall's attempts were close, just not quite close enough, but as long as we can maintain a competitive playing budget we'll be in the mix, and that in turn keeps the attendances up. Hopefully the next manager can find that little bit extra where NA and IB didn't.

I think we've now got grown-ups in charge, which is ironic given that they're two of the youngest owners in the league. Of course they want to go up, but they aren't going bankrupt us by overspending wildly. I'm fine with that.

I'm with Jackal on this.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

[SwalePie]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

What he said! ^

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

I completely agree. One fans stability is another fans cheap option. One fans patience is another fans content with NL level.

I don't for one moment think that our owners are happy for us to stay at NL level. Genuine owners will want what is best for the club and will want to be successful and play at the highest level possible.

The problem is that this league is the toughest of all the professional leagues to get out of. Firstly if you finish 4th, 5th, 6th (or 7th in LG2) you are in the play-off semi final. Not at this level you finish in any of those places and you have an extra playoff game. If you finish 2nd (or 3rd in LG2) in any of the other leagues you get automatic promotion. Not at this level it's semi-final play-offs at best.

There needs to be a reality check here. Money talks but does not guarantee promotion. Likewise I can't fault the owners one bit for running this club sensibly and not recklessly. It's too bad if some fans don't like that the club are not spending £250,000 - £300,000 on one player such as a Paddy Madden or Ollie Palmer. Likewise when the likes of Wrexham are paying £3-4K a week on a number of players wages that is more than the average League One team how is that sustainable? It's not.

This morning Wrexham woke up knowing they are in this league for at least another year yet look who they brought in; Paul Mullin, James Jones, Ben Tozer, Aaron Hayden and Ollie Palmer.

They have paid all that money on signing fees and wages for those players this season yet in the league they only won two more games than us, scored ten goals more than us and conceded six less goals than us, and start the season in August in the same league as us.

Which club got has got better value for money this season based on money spent? Us.

[upthemaggies]

I don't for one moment think that our owners are happy for us to stay at NL level. Genuine owners will want what is best for the club and will want to be successful and play at the highest level possible.

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It is possible they feel they get more satisfaction out of being able to play Football Manager for real, by having their hands on all levers, than allowing somebody else (a manager in the true sense of the word) to bring tangible success which they'd merely be funding as opposed to having full control over.

Maybe they do get more of a kick out of buying and selling a player than the team winning football matches.

Not saying the above is the case, just throwing it out as a possibility. Of course they'd want to get promoted, but maybe it is more of a priority for them to be involved in as many aspects of the game as they possibly can.

[laddo]

They let him go because he had failed to take us to the next level. At least it saved them from having to sack him..

If you are talking about sacking him after the Grimsby result, I don't think they would have.

[durhampie]

If you are talking about sacking him after the Grimsby result, I don't think they would have.

They weren't impressed when i sat behind them....

[Old_pie]

They weren't impressed when i sat behind them....

Presumably you couldn't see their faces so what were they saying?

It did occur to me this morning that maybe the reason Burchnall left when the opportunity arose was because he realised that the club was not going to meet his ambitions with the limitations the Bros imposed.