Neal Ardley

[laddo]

I remember one regular poster when I and others suggested the problems started at the top with the owner/chairman and anyone who blamed Ardley exclusively had to remember who appointed him?! The response, well he didn't have to take the job

Of course that was after sacking the previous two managers in doubly quick time.

Ardley got Solihull Moors to the playoff final , that must mean he's capable of motivation right? Or did he just get very very lucky that season? Same when he got Wimbledon up through the playoffs before he joined Notts.

If he wasn't capable of any sort of motivation for that one disastrous season I suggest it was due to the sh!
tshow backdrop he came into. I think I'm safe to say the backdrops at Wimbledon and Moors would have been far more preferable, maybe even stable

[Proactive not Reactive]

Putting the relegation aside. If we do alright this coming season and look good for challenging for promotion again sooner rather than later, then we probably would have been in L1 by now had we not wasted an additional 18 months on Ardley.

As said by LW himself NA and IB helped us along the journey and without them I’m not sure LW would have got us up last season.
LW failed at Swindon in possibly the same toxic atmosphere of NA’s first half season and pre-season at Notts
I would also think the brothers are better in their 3rd season at the club rather than their first season of owning a football club.
So I certainly don’t think NA’s 2 years were wasted with such fine lines the first 20 mins v Harrogate cost us promotion where as the first 20 minutes ALMOST cost us promotion v Chesterfield

[upthemaggies]

I remember one regular poster when I and others suggested the problems started at the top with the owner/chairman and anyone who blamed Ardley exclusively had to remember who appointed him?! The response, well he didn't have to take the job

Of course that was after sacking the previous two managers in doubly quick time.

Ardley got Solihull Moors to the playoff final , that must mean he's capable of motivation right? Or did he just get very very lucky that season? Same when he got Wimbledon up through the playoffs before he joined Notts.

If he wasn't capable of any sort of motivation for that one disastrous season I suggest it was due to the sh!
tshow backdrop he came into. I think I'm safe to say the backdrops at Wimbledon and Moors would have been far more preferable, maybe even stable

Obviously it's a lot easier to motivate when you're under no pressure. As soon as he came under pressure at Notts it ended with his infamous interview where he basically admitted he couldn't do anything to get the players to do what he wanted.
When things got tougher at SM the results collapsed and he's dropped from play off final to 15th in one season.

He'd probably do great if he went back to Wimbledon, popular former players at old clubs is a whole different dynamic as we know with Notts and how they've done elsewhere, if they could even get a job elsewhere.

[queenslandpie]

oh look another Neal Ardley discussion fred. How exicting!

[Elite_Pie]

Ardley got Solihull Moors to the playoff final , that must mean he's capable of motivation right?

It suggests he is capable of motivation, but did he show it in the relegation season? Did we play like a motivated team or a clueless team?

Sol Campbell came into a worse sh!tshow backdrop at Macclesfield, but he did the business. He failed at Southend, which suggests that he's not a good manager and Ardley was up against very limited opposition. But he allowed Sol to turn a 5 point deficit into a 3 point advantage.

Pretend it was all Hardy's fault if it makes you sleep easier, but Ardley was useless in that season.

[laddo]

So he has got the ability to motivate before and after Notts but not in that one (relegation) season. Which says it all about the conditions he was operating under.

We played like a clueless team for the majority of the season, we looked clueless that season under Nolan, clueless at times under Kewell and clueless under Ardley. That season Nolan clearly didn't motivate during the horrific start to the season. Kewell managed it for what a 3 game run? Looks like all 3 failed to motivate that season. The common thread is the man in charge of the managers and the toxic disastrous and embarrassingly laughable backdrop his decisions created.

I don't pretend it's all Hardy or anyone's fault, never have, never will. That's trying to put words into someone's mouth. I only know one person, Davy500, who repeatedly put full blame on any one person that season. Which tbh is frankly laughable, it was very much a collective effort IMO.

Ardley was useless, so was Nolan, so was Kewell, so were the players , and most of all the boss man.

Elton is rocking it btw.

[laddo]

Obviously it's a lot easier to motivate when you're under no pressure. As soon as he came under pressure at Notts it ended with his infamous interview where he basically admitted he couldn't do anything to get the players to do what he wanted.
When things got tougher at SM the results collapsed and he's dropped from play off final to 15th in one season.

He'd probably do great if he went back to Wimbledon, popular former players at old clubs is a whole different dynamic as we know with Notts and how they've done elsewhere, if they could even get a job elsewhere.

He came into a a pressure situation at Notts, that was created by Hardy/Nolan/Kewell. I'm not surprised he couldn't get that fractured unmotivated unsettled squad to perform. None of the 3 managers could.

At Moors I believe the playoff final to 15th is slightly misleading, the chairman's decision to sell players when he did basically waved the white flag for the club. Not sure what position they were in when they sold Dallas but I doubt believe it was 15th or even close, I'm sure UTM will know.

To reach the playoff final with little old Solihull Moors seems like an over achievement to me, as was getting Wimbledon promoted that season. Maybe he only operates well when not under pressure with a stable professionally run club behind them, and crumbles when it's a bigger club with big troubles on and off the pitch and next to no stability.

[upthemaggies]

So he has got the ability to motivate before and after Notts but not in that one (relegation) season. Which says it all about the conditions he was operating under.
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Nor did he have the ability to motivate towards the end of his time at Notts, nor at Wembley when it most mattered.

That's what separates the good managers from the bad, being able to cut it when the wins are *****, as opposed to coasting it whilst your owners are getting the feet under the table or with a club that was in the habit of getting promoted living out a daydream after the MKD fiasco.

[Elite_Pie]

So he has got the ability to motivate before and after Notts but not in that one (relegation) season. Which says it all about the conditions he was operating under.

No, it says he was burnt out and unable to do his job effectively.

You were his biggest cheerleader, but he blew it.

[Elite_Pie]

Elton is rocking it btw.

He must have been good, because it stopped you posting on NCM while you watched.

Almost.