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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    It's ironic that you mention stuck record because after what I've just read, you've asked "what has he done to inspire confidence" at least 4 times in this thread.

    Just because there have been no positives on the field of play, it doesn't invalidate the view that some people think he ought to be given a chance next season, with his "own" players. That's it. There's nothing more to it. You're not going to disprove anything with this daft question you keep wittering on about.

    And YOU are not coming up with anything that (in your view) shows LR is inspiring confidence.

    And I will post what I want, it’s a free site….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back of the net View Post
    Didn’t you call for Redfern head when he had only been here a short time Brin?
    Apologies if I’ve got that wrong.
    BOTN, simply cannot recall that at all pal. I would be intrigued to read up on it if CAM wants to dig deep enough. IF I did say that there must have been a valid reason for it, as like I say, I don't like to keep swapping Managers every 6 months, it's pointless or, the pointing goes at the board.

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    Andy Scott Stubbs Redfern Taylor failed had to go. Richardson Kelly what they done any better? In one word worse! Get rid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back of the net View Post
    Didn’t you call for Redfern head when he had only been here a short time Brin?
    Apologies if I’ve got that wrong.
    I called for redfern head before he arrived. He was clearly not the answer and Richardson is in the same category

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    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    Tinribs. How many of those players left to Warne. We're actually signed by jacket?
    One, Odemwingie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinribs View Post
    Just out of interest this was the starting eleven that Warne was left with by jacket after the Leeds game
    L camp
    S Kelly
    D ball
    R wood
    D fisher
    Adeyemi
    Halford
    Newell
    I Brown
    D ward
    Odemwingie
    And after a massive summer clear out he started with completely different starting eleven
    R O’Donnell
    Mattock
    Ihekwie
    Ajayi
    Josh Emmuel
    Forde
    Frecklington
    Vaulks
    J Taylor
    Proctor
    Ball
    So maybe let’s see how LR goes on this summer after a severe clear out utm
    Tinribs. How many of those players left to Warne. We're actually signed by jacket?
    And your skewing the PW list as a few of those players were at the club but injured/subs under jacket

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    My point was just to say a massive clear out of players is needed again to get us going in the right direction

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    Clean sweep please. Players and management. You don't half-cure a cancer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millmoordays View Post
    At last, reasoned argument.
    I’d take issue with the CV. He inherited players and a lot of money (for a D1) was spent on them.
    But the rest applies.
    It is a problem.

    I believe we are taking a big chance, since what is there to inspire?
    Inherited which players at Wigan? They finished 5th from bottom before the season they won the league so I'm not sure they had many decent players when LR became manager.

    The only reason you take issue with his CV is because of what's happening at Rotherham United right now. And if that's your view then fair enough. But you can't just ignore the fact that he won the league. It still had to be won, regardless of budget. Ipswich, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton, Charlton were all in that league when Wigan won it. Did they have smaller or bigger budgets than Wigan? I don't know the answer but you don't simply go up because of budget. Look at how long some of those teams had (or have) been in L1.

    Results and performances have been unacceptable of late but that's not all on LR, far from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan View Post
    Inherited which players at Wigan? They finished 5th from bottom before the season they won the league so I'm not sure they had many decent players when LR became manager.

    The only reason you take issue with his CV is because of what's happening at Rotherham United right now. And if that's your view then fair enough. But you can't just ignore the fact that he won the league. It still had to be won, regardless of budget. Ipswich, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton, Charlton were all in that league when Wigan won it. Did they have smaller or bigger budgets than Wigan? I don't know the answer but you don't simply go up because of budget. Look at how long some of those teams had (or have) been in L1.

    Results and performances have been unacceptable of late but that's not all on LR, far from it.
    This may change your mind.- Although Richardson remains well loved by so many fans for what he has done for the club the current situation is giving them much cause for concern. Many are asking why the manager was given a new three year contract with the standard of football played by his team being so poor. On Wednesday Latics were facing a Stoke team that had lost its previous three matches and was only just above the relegation zone. Playing with three centre backs and three holding midfielders was never likely to provide entertainment value for the home fans. When the team sheet was announced before the game the inference was that Richardson was playing not to lose, hoping for a goal from a set piece or bringing on his big target men in the latter stages with the scores tied.

    Following a Stoke goal that was gifted to them by an inept Wigan rear guard the manager introduced both Charlie Wyke and Josh Magennis for the last 20 minutes. The football produced during that time ranked among the worst I have seen from Latics over decades of following them. It was totally depressing.

    The praise that Richardson has received from Latics fans in the past has been very much merited. He is still held in high regard on a personal level, but there have always been flaws in his tactical approach. Having a squad that was superior to most in League 1 meant that the cracks were papered over. However, they are fully exposed in a Championship division against superior players and managers with more tactical nous.

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