Talk of challenging for promotion is foolish

[welovebooth]

Warne did it with a team who had amassed the worst points record in the championship ever.
Next year went straight back up.

[welovebooth]

Priority - Stop.The.Rot.

Only way you stop it is by winning

[grundy]

I also think the bulk of this current squad would struggle to get us in the top half of division one. I really do not understand how people believe Rathbone should be pivotal to us doing well next season. He plays centre midfield and at times in an advanced role. His record of assists and goalscoring in the championship and division one do not stack up.
In three seasons for us in league football he has scored seven and had seven assists. No doubt about it he is somebody who puts in a shift for you but his creativity is negligible. If we are to keep him (i would prefer a decent fee and move him on) we need a Barlaser type player around him. They are difficult to find,in three and a half seasons for us Barlaser had 23 assists and in the promotion season he scored nine times. I believe there are many players who could do the job Rathbone does(ratting) but if we are to progress we need better players in the middle of the park imo.

[NorthWestCorner]

I also think the bulk of this current squad would struggle to get us in the top half of division one. I really do not understand how people believe Rathbone should be pivotal to us doing well next season. He plays centre midfield and at times in an advanced role. His record of assists and goalscoring in the championship and division one do not stack up.
In three seasons for us in league football he has scored seven and had seven assists. No doubt about it he is somebody who puts in a shift for you but his creativity is negligible. If we are to keep him (i would prefer a decent fee and move him on) we need a Barlaser type player around him. They are difficult to find,in three and a half seasons for us Barlaser had 23 assists and in the promotion season he scored nine times. I believe there are many players who could do the job Rathbone does(ratting) but if we are to progress we need better players in the middle of the park imo.

Agreed but remember he was effective in division one. It’s a much poorer level than the championship- much more reliant on physicality. We will of course need the ball player but I suspect that’s where the money will have to be spent.

Will be interesting to see if Evans can get a tune out of Nombe as well. I suspect he will play a 4-3-3 so expect Nombe to get a go on the right side of the front three - the Agard role.

[Feedthegoater]

Mangers are doomed for speaking out and doomed for not saying anything.
I'm glad SE is being positive about our club.

[Brin]

Mangers are doomed for speaking out and doomed for not saying anything.
I'm glad SE is being positive about our club.

The beauty of Evo is he says it as it is and doesn't hold nothing back. Good or bad with this type of approach? I think it's good then all and sundry can truly hear/see what exactly is wrong at our club. I don't like all the PC/PR 'shut your gob' that Richardson daren't mention.

Get it all out there in the open before the close season begins, Evo recruits, Stewart sorts out facilities/training pitches out then sit back and hopefully let Evo get on with bringing results and happier times back to us all.

[mellowmiller]

Indeed.

Its clear that the day to day training of players has been shambolic for the last 18 months. Whatever happened to the medical, physio and fitness teams since Warne left once a proper look at.

The soft tissue injuries are bad ones, but its funny how we didnt have them anywhere near this level under any other manager bar Taylor - DESPITE the training ground being just as poo then. Worth noting, we lost more than just Warney.

The type of drills, where it was being done, what time it was being done etc. has been a cluprit. Thats obvious.

Interestingly Bristol Rovers seem to be having similar problems and there is a significant "Taylor out" brigade on their forum.
Some people will always say Warney was just a fitness coach but the reality is he knew what he was doing. Unfortunately the same can't be said of Taylor and he has inflicted deep-seated damage on the club and possibly wrecked the careers of some players.

[mellowmiller]

The beauty of Evo is he says it as it is and doesn't hold nothing back. Good or bad with this type of approach? I think it's good then all and sundry can truly hear/see what exactly is wrong at our club. I don't like all the PC/PR 'shut your gob' that Richardson daren't mention.

Get it all out there in the open before the close season begins, Evo recruits, Stewart sorts out facilities/training pitches out then sit back and hopefully let Evo get on with bringing results and happier times back to us all.

That's only partly true Brin.
Evo is renowned for saying what he thinks people want to hear.
I'm not sure TS will be particularly enamoured about Evo insinuating that he has been misled.
It's going to be an interesting close season.

[Millmoordays]

2 successive managers saying it is worse, and warne did before he left…..not hard to spot where the problem is.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

2 successive managers saying it is worse, and warne did before he left…..not hard to spot where the problem is.

You’d have thought that if it was that bad that PW would have left sooner than he did