Burton post match reflections

[Pocket rocket]

I agree with most of your comments pocket but this is bowlax. Genuine fans don't need to travel home and away to have an opinion. I'm from what he had available last night hamshaw made 2 mistakes. 1 keeping Martha on all game when he's been poor for the last 2 he's played. And using sherif as a target man instead of hugill.

I wasn?t suggests only genuine fans travel home and away. If that?s how it came across I apologise.

My point is that it?s easy to criticise supporters who have paid money turned up pissing wet through when you are sat at home.
They are no less of a supporter but just bear in mind the context of someone who is giving an opinion after a poor game it?s a different emotion and experience.

I?ve been criticised for being a happy clapper at times but at the moment I?m getting tired of the same excuses from the club.
Everyone has a different opinion which is valid just appreciate the different perspectives of why people are seeing it differently.

[SdnMiller]

Unfortunately I wasn't at the game yesterday because I was on holiday but watched it on sky.

I think the performances this season remind me a little bit of the season under Taylor a couple years ago, with a massive injury crisis at the back and a squad of two halves

I think the praise/critique of Dawson is the epitome of this because he is a great shot stopper undoubtedly, but his distribution is woeful at best. He holds on to the ball too long in his hands and can't kick the ball at all, and he is pretty pathetic when it comes to commanding his box, something you need when you have an inexperienced defense.

Anyways I thought the game last night was played in 4 quarters, Burton started both halves strong, we ended them both strong and a draw seemed a fair result in the end

[Yak]

You don?t have too, we will be competitive !

Could you elaborate on some of your grouses ? Disorganised well two full backs and a rookie in the back four ? What else could he do ? Negative, what do you expect with a makeshift team ? Can you explain exactly what else he could do ?

No width very few passes forward often going backwards. Brought Sherrif on in front of Hugill left Martha on too long.
Too many long balls when simple passes were on.
I?m a MH fan but the way but it?s ok to criticise.

[Yak]

I?m on about last night by the way not criticism every game like some do

[MILLERSTALE]

No width very few passes forward often going backwards. Brought Sherrif on in front of Hugill left Martha on too long.
Too many long balls when simple passes were on.
I?m a MH fan but the way but it?s ok to criticise.

We have no wide players ! if you had played in a poor team you would always be going backwards, no confidence to go forward ! Hughill had played over 2 hrs on Saturday he would be shot ? I?m not a fan of Martha, so Benson could have arrived earlier, long balls again are a lack of confidence, but you said earlier we were passing backwards and not forward, can?t both be right ? Make shift team = very little confidence plus our main engines had played over 2 hrs and were a little bit Flat !!

[CAMiller]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I am staggered. I was often accused last year of being blind to SE failings, well you have taken it to a new level with this. Our approach was disorganised, disjointed and negative. The midfield was passive. The tactics were beyond basic. The only light from the evening was the young centre half who gave a very competent display. The only reason we got back into the game was because Burton collapsed.

I fear Saturday.

You fear every Saturday NWC

We are still tracking almost identically to last year. Just 1pt and a couple of places better off after 14 games. This week a year ago we put on the abject performance at Oakwell that signalled the vitreolic attacks on SE. The last half hour yesterday may have saved MH from a similar reaction?

Lincoln on Saturday could be a tipping point in either direction. Naturally as one of the Rosehill Mob I'd like it to be in the right direction.

[NorthWestCorner]

You fear every Saturday NWC

We are still tracking almost identically to last year. Just 1pt and a couple of places better off after 14 games. This week a year ago we put on the abject performance at Oakwell that signalled the vitreolic attacks on SE. The last half hour yesterday may have saved MH from a similar reaction?

Lincoln on Saturday could be a tipping point in either direction. Naturally as one of the Rosehill Mob I'd like it to be in the right direction.

Last year, you and others were berating SE for the performances and results. Now you are using it as a benchmark for acceptability. Last year was ****e, this year is as bad if not worse. It’s time you and others wake up to the harsh reality that TS has sold us down the river and MH is paddling hard in the same direction.

[CAMiller]

Last year, you and others were berating SE for the performances and results. Now you are using it as a benchmark for acceptability. Last year was ****e, this year is as bad if not worse. It’s time you and others wake up to the harsh reality that TS has sold us down the river and MH is paddling hard in the same direction.

I wasn't using it as a benchmark for acceptability (although I see it might look that way) but more as a measure to show we are exactly where we were 12 months ago, an appalling loss at home to a L2 team in the FA Cup followed by a toothless performance, only rescued by a shinned OG and a 90+4 minute equaliser.

Expectations this time around are different and thus the reason why MH, so far, has generally been given more leeway than SE was. The latter conjured up some 'mini turnarounds' that saw him 'survive' through ~39 games. What will happen with MH? Time will tell.

[UlleyMiller]

After the opening game we went on a run of taking 4 points from a possible 24. After that spell we've gone 5 unbeaten, including two away wins (yes, Rotherham, away), and taken 11 points from 15. That's title winning form.

The truth is that Burton are rarely going to be an easy team to turn over, but the game was largely even. Their goals came from a corner where more experienced centre backs would have easily bossed it (we have one centre back, and he's a young lad), and a goal from a slip on a surface which was causing problems all night, which their lot celebrated (embarrassingly, in my view) like they'd won a trophy.

We've been absolutely dire when going behind in recent years, but we've yet again found our way back into a game and secured a point from two goals down. We're down to threads of a team. No centre backs with any league experience, forward line is missing fully fit depth, and the goalkeeper has zero threat of his place going if he plays badly.

Hamshaw has got some obvious problems right now getting the system to work (the wing back approach looks a mess, and having to drop full backs in the middle doesn't help), but lately we're still getting points. He's just given us a three-game win streak in the league for the second time since he came in - SE didn't do that once, and he's got over 500 league games under his belt. That's not a "who's the better manager" comment, but tells you that MH has quickly got the lads operating in the right way to get points where they can, despite him being a very junior manager and also having to navigate the legacy issues at the club.

When I sit listening to the away fans (not far away from my seat) singing "your support is f***ing s***", I often just sit and think they probably don't know the half of it. Hundreds (often thousands) don't bother coming because Sky are saving them getting a bit wet, hundreds seemingly opt out when we're not picking teams apart regularly, we've never been the noisiest fans, but of late there's barely enough background noise to risk a fart in the main stand, and in the background the bickering (and in some cases, just needless personal attacks and trolling) over anything and everything is endless. I've said before we're far from the best fans and some took offence - but if this is a club whose fans are among the best, I'd hate to see the other end of the scale.

11 points from 15, a winnable game on Saturday, then a likely break before three more we should be more than competitive in. I'll take this over some of what I've sat through in the last three seasons. UTM.

[caytonmiller]

No width very few passes forward often going backwards. Brought Sherrif on in front of Hugill left Martha on too long.
Too many long balls when simple passes were on.
I?m a MH fan but the way but it?s ok to criticise.

Don't disagree with any of this. Though in MH defence (maybe it's his own doing) he doesn't have the players to provide width. I guess they are his players and the wide players he brought in are not performing.
I'm in the gru66 camp regarding Martha. Plus imo he would be far better in the championship than the rough n tumble of league one

He's playing Powell as wingbacks which is a waste of his ability. He needs to have a roaming role to boss a game