O/T Disgrace Cummings

[KerrAvon]

Back on topic.

I can't help but thinking the general public have been given a sweetener with the six people/ BBQ relaxation coming into effect on Monday
Or to put it another way we've been bought in an attempt by the govt to stop the demand for Cummings to go.

Health Advisors are warning that this could be too early and there's a suggestion that this move is politically motivated rather than based on sound medical advice,.

Maybe I'm being too cynical but Boris the Womble was never going to rid of Dominic Specsaver and after a few beers and burgers with a few friends it will be forgotten

All of the decisions made in respect of the lockdown are political ones.

Any easing of the lockdown has the potential to resulted in new infections and deaths, but the medical/epidemiological position is only one of the factors that the government has to take into account.

The lockdown carries costs in many ways: adverse effects on mental health, limitations upon the ability to access non-Covid related medical care, children unable to socialise and access full education (with the data suggesting that it is kids from poorer backgrounds who are being most affected), loss of employment and the accrual of debt - the list goes on. In my area of work, the criminal courts are largely at a halt, with an increasing number of people sitting in custody on remand with no idea when their cases might come to trial. And the lockdown will need to be paid for in due course.

The six person BBQ relaxation has no real potential to increase infections, provided people comply with social distancing. Unfortunately, one poll suggests that one in five of the most risky group don't:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ating-11971794

I don't buy into the idea that the BBQ relaxation is about Cummings. That is now old news beyond The Guardian and Mirror. I'd say it is more about giving people a bit of liberty and encouraging people to get used to the notion that things can and will have to return to something more resembling normality. Someone on the Schools Returning thread talked about Covid being eradicated. That isn't going to happen for years if not decades, if at all.

[flourbasher]

All of the decisions made in respect of the lockdown are political ones.

Any easing of the lockdown has the potential to resulted in new infections and deaths, but the medical/epidemiological position is only one of the factors that the government has to take into account.

The lockdown carries costs in many ways: adverse effects on mental health, limitations upon the ability to access non-Covid related medical care, children unable to socialise and access full education (with the data suggesting that it is kids from poorer backgrounds who are being most affected), loss of employment and the accrual of debt - the list goes on. In my area of work, the criminal courts are largely at a halt, with an increasing number of people sitting in custody on remand with no idea when their cases might come to trial. And the lockdown will need to be paid for in due course.

The six person BBQ relaxation has no real potential to increase infections, provided people comply with social distancing. Unfortunately, one poll suggests that one in five of the most risky group don't:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ating-11971794

I don't buy into the idea that the BBQ relaxation is about Cummings. That is now old news beyond The Guardian and Mirror. I'd say it is more about giving people a bit of liberty and encouraging people to get used to the notion that things can and will have to return to something more resembling normality. Someone on the Schools Returning thread talked about Covid being eradicated. That isn't going to happen for years if not decades, if at all.

There are some Health professionals who disagree with you and they disagree with the Govts current tactics

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52858392

[rolymiller]

Very reasonable points I would say Flour.

[rolymiller]

Surprise, surprise a contrary opinion to a very reasonable post. Give it a rest now...you are not posting against some rabid lefty now so you don't have to be a contrary mary...you are driving folks off here with your inane wind ups...

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Surprise, surprise a contrary opinion to a very reasonable post. Give it a rest now...you are not posting against some rabid lefty now so you don't have to be a contrary mary...you are driving folks off here with your inane wind ups...

Note, John2 has a rest and KerrAvon appears

Content exactly the same

Odd that isn't it?

[John2]

Note, John2 has a rest and KerrAvon appears

Content exactly the same

Odd that isn't it?

LOL. Don't worry Grist, I'm still posting, you just can't see mine because you've blocked me so you can't see my posts any more, remember?

It's something you had to do to help stop your face from keeping on turning shades of Vimto.

[KerrAvon]

Surprise, surprise a contrary opinion to a very reasonable post. Give it a rest now...you are not posting against some rabid lefty now so you don't have to be a contrary mary...you are driving folks off here with your inane wind ups...

I disagree with Flour, Roly and have given what I think is a reasonable response. Note that I have done it without going Roly style and calling him names, accusing of him of being a multi or otherwise behaving like a mardy 7 yr old. You should watch and learn for a while.

[rolymiller]

There's a lot of oddities on here Grist!

I'm just putting a few bob in my mind on what is gonna happen next on this thread. I'm gonna see if I'm right!

[rolymiller]

It all sounds SO familiar but I've promised folk I won't go there. So for my good friends Casper and Wrinks I will resist my urge...I will go and do summat more worthwhile with my time than listen to you...

[KerrAvon]

There are some Health professionals who disagree with you and they disagree with the Govts current tactics

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52858392

I have seen that article, Flour and don't disagree with the thrust of what is being said, but as I stated, the decisions that need to be made aren't just about medicine and aren't just about Covid. The lockdown is harming and killing people too.