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[Manofpride]

Well...without playing the % game again...what some of the people voted for.

You might want to consider whether a man with so little integrity is fit to lead anything, let alone be PM, but then if you reckon dodgy Nigel is the next best thing I suppose there’s no hope.

The thing is RA the % wasn't a game the biggest % wanted leave. Remainers won't accept it. Like remainers accusing Boris of suspending parliament, what do you expect when parliament suspended democracy. Boris is getting the job done and I can't see anyone stopping him. It looks like the only way it can be done is with a general election and I don't think that will happen.

[Andy_Faber]

Well...without playing the % game again...what some of the people voted for.

You might want to consider whether a man with so little integrity is fit to lead anything, let alone be PM, but then if you reckon dodgy Nigel is the next best thing I suppose there’s no hope.

can we have a retraction of all the nasty things you said about Arran Banks now he's been vindicated?

PS Vic says JC (Jesus Christ) prob a remainer and def not a JC (Jeremy Corbyn) sit-on-the-fence type

[ramAnag]

The thing is RA the % wasn't a game the biggest % wanted leave. Remainers won't accept it. Like remainers accusing Boris of suspending parliament, what do you expect when parliament suspended democracy. Boris is getting the job done and I can't see anyone stopping him. It looks like the only way it can be done is with a general election and I don't think that will happen.

No point in going over old ground MoP. You have your view concerning the original Referendum and I have mine.

I think the only way you’ll have your election at the time you want is if Johnson and his ragbag of what’s left of the Tory Party take the extraordinary step of instigating a vote of no confidence in themselves.

To bring about a ‘No Deal’ Brexit now by Oct’ 31st would surely mean breaking the law again but seeing as illegal actions don’t seem to bother this excuse for a PM that wouldn’t surprise me.

Of course, a second Referendum would avoid all the indecision but you’ve already conceded you don’t want that because you don’t think you’ll win...so much - three years on - for the ‘Will of the People’ then, which was never, ever in favour of ‘No Deal’.

P.S. Andy...absolutely not...he hasn’t been ‘vindicated’...he’s been cleared of acting illegally. Totally different thing...ask the Vic.

[Geoff Parkstone]

No point in going over old ground MoP. You have your view concerning the original Referendum and I have mine.

I think the only way you’ll have your election at the time you want is if Johnson and his ragbag of what’s left of the Tory Party take the extraordinary step of instigating a vote of no confidence in themselves.

To bring about a ‘No Deal’ Brexit now by Oct’ 31st would surely mean breaking the law again but seeing as illegal actions don’t seem to bother this excuse for a PM that wouldn’t surprise me.

Of course, a second Referendum would avoid all the indecision but you’ve already conceded you don’t want that because you don’t think you’ll win...so much - three years on - for the ‘Will of the People’ then, which was never, ever in favour of ‘No Deal’.

P.S. Andy...absolutely not...he hasn’t been ‘vindicated’...he’s been cleared of acting illegally. Totally different thing...ask the Vic.

Oh the irony in that statement

[MadAmster]

You couldn’t write it! After swearing that the Prorogation of Parliament was “nothing whatsoever” to do with Brexit, the government is now accusing the Supreme Court of trying to “frustrate brexit” by ruling the Prorogation “unlawful”!

The government can’t have it both ways.

Either they Prorogued parliament to prevent MPs stopping their no deal brexit, or the Prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit - which is it?

Now Parliament is returning, it seems the illegality has gone. There are those that say Article 50 says that there are 2 years of negotiating and then you leave with or without a deal and that there was no mention of that on the ballot paper. Article 50 also allows for extensions if both sides agree so those saying Article 50 means we are now already out are wrong.

[ramAnag]

Oh the irony in that statement

You can take it like that if you wish Parky.

I’m just trying to avoid old ground which, even though it remains totally relevant, seems to piss people off.

The old arguments remain the same...the new ones - forty months on - concern an inept, dishonest and now law breaking and unelected PM trying to railroad through a form of Brexit which no one has voted for and which a great many - including on last week’s evidence...yourself - are wholly opposed to.

[Geoff Parkstone]

You are right rA, if it wasn't so important, or was happening in another country, we'd be pissing ourselves laughing

[ramAnag]

You are right rA, if it wasn't so important, or was happening in another country, we'd be pissing ourselves laughing

Indeed Geoff, instead of which we are an absolute laughing stock and...just to endear him to you further and show how completely and uselessly out of touch he is...the pillock took it upon himself to fly back to the UK in a jet usually designed to carry 335 passengers!

As MA suggested earlier, ‘you couldn’t write it!’

[Manofpride]

Indeed Geoff, instead of which we are an absolute laughing stock and...just to endear him to you further and show how completely and uselessly out of touch he is...the pillock took it upon himself to fly back to the UK in a jet usually designed to carry 335 passengers!

As MA suggested earlier, ‘you couldn’t write it!’

He could have shared that with some Thomas Cook passengers and helped out a bit!

[swaledale]

The thing is RA the % wasn't a game the biggest % wanted leave. Remainers won't accept it. Like remainers accusing Boris of suspending parliament, what do you expect when parliament suspended democracy. Boris is getting the job done and I can't see anyone stopping him. It looks like the only way it can be done is with a general election and I don't think that will happen.

I've seen some fantasy posts but Boris is getting the job done takes the biscuit - he says he says negotiations are proceeding, the Eu says they have seen no new proposals. He says a unanimous decision by the highest court in the land is wrong and is trying to frustrate Brexit, when its clear the judgement is that the reason for the prorogation of parliament is that the evidence clearly shows that Johnson and his cronies had planned the suspension of parliament to avoid scrutiny rather than for the reasons he claimed. Then in a disgraceful display tonight he insults the name of the MP that was killed, when other MP's cal on him to stop using inflammatory language and to show respect for the rule of law.

SO you put your faith in a proven liar, with no credibility (he is actually a remainer but chose leave purely to further his ambition), is prepared to do anything even acting unlawfully to get his way, peddles falsehoods (he admits to writing falsehoods about the EU in the Torygraph because it pleased his readers and is incapable of understanding the necessary detail and is a poor version of Trump as leader of this Country?

If it were another country we would be very critical of a leader who was so contemptuous of the courts, we'd call them a dictator. But apparently some think if it gets the results they want its acceptable?

We truly are sinking to a new low in voter intelligence and morality and ever closer to parallels with how Hitler got to power, when many "good" germans voted for him and his simplistic, populistic message about making Germany great again.