O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[MadAmster]

A life of edam cheese, sugar on toast and Heineken? No I'm happy to wait in the queue

Blinkered as ever GP. We have more than one cheese type and various sub types of each varying in fat content as well as levels of flavour. sugar on toast is a thing but only for a small % of the populace. Heineken is but one of many Dutch beers, the vast majority of which are much better than Heineken and we are gettig snowed under by the number of new micro breweries springing up and making some excellent beers as well as lagers and pilsners.

Still, you knew that before you posted...............

[Geoff Parkstone]

ooh and i forgot wooden shoes

[MadAmster]

Dutch government getting slated for being the last in the EU to start vaccinating. Technically, they were the last to get the first jab in an arm. However, about half of the EU countries that "got in first" had a PR "for the public" stunt to get a few jabs in a few arms to add some "feel good" factor.

First jabs over here started this morning. I missed ambulance crew from the list of health care workers at the front of the queue I posted yesterday. Oversight amended.

[ramAnag]

Let’s not start getting too complacent Andy and Ram. Hopefully our Government will have done a good job of sourcing sufficient vaccines and, IF they have then they’ll deserve the credit...but we’re still the country in Europe with the highest number of cases and deaths and BJ is still the PM who, less than thirty six hours after announcing that all schools were safe, had to announce that they would all be closing as part of an urgently needed national lockdown.

The way I see it we’re reliant much more on a combination of the NHS and local government to ‘get millions of Brits vaccinated’ but hopefully the Government’s procurement skills will greatly outweigh their management and communication efforts.

I’d also love to see an end to this ‘competitive’ aspect. I don’t care if a ninety year old lady from the UK was the first to be jabbed three weeks ago...I’d just like to see a ‘joined up’ World effort to vaccinate as many people as possible across the entire planet.

[Andy_Faber]

Let’s not start getting too complacent Andy and Ram. Hopefully our Government will have done a good job of sourcing sufficient vaccines and, IF they have then they’ll deserve the credit...but we’re still the country in Europe with the highest number of cases and deaths and BJ is still the PM who, less than thirty six hours after announcing that all schools were safe, had to announce that they would all be closing as part of an urgently needed national lockdown.

The way I see it we’re reliant much more on a combination of the NHS and local government to ‘get millions of Brits vaccinated’ but hopefully the Government’s procurement skills will greatly outweigh their management and communication efforts.

I’d also love to see an end to this ‘competitive’ aspect. I don’t care if a ninety year old lady from the UK was the first to be jabbed three weeks ago...I’d just like to see a ‘joined up’ World effort to vaccinate as many people as possible across the entire planet.

We’ll have to agree to differ on all of that rA, especially your come what May downer on all things HMG. Regretably for your idealist principles everything’s gone a bit nationalistic now our collective cocks are on the block and on this occasion my nation is ahead of the game and bloody great. My mums getting her jab on Saturday and if that is to the exclusion of someone unknown somewhere else in the world, so be it, not that I begrudge anyone their dose

[swaledale]

We’ll have to agree to differ on all of that rA, especially your come what May downer on all things HMG. Regretably for your idealist principles everything’s gone a bit nationalistic now our collective cocks are on the block and on this occasion my nation is ahead of the game and bloody great. My mums getting her jab on Saturday and if that is to the exclusion of someone unknown somewhere else in the world, so be it, not that I begrudge anyone their dose

Ah yes the "Little Englander" syndrome, everything hasn't gone a bit nationalistic now actually, this Government knows the right dog whistle which will conveniently make the proles forget about the previous cock ups and prostrate themselves gratefully.

I knew that most discussions on here were with posters whose knowledge and understanding of reality was sketchy at best, but are you really that desperate to find something to come up with something illustrate this government isn't a bunch of incompetent tossers?

[AdiSalisbury]

Ah yes the "Little Englander" syndrome, everything hasn't gone a bit nationalistic now actually, this Government knows the right dog whistle which will conveniently make the proles forget about the previous cock ups and prostrate themselves gratefully.

I knew that most discussions on here were with posters whose knowledge and understanding of reality was sketchy at best, but are you really that desperate to find something to come up with something illustrate this government isn't a bunch of incompetent tossers?

Ah yes, the "Little Swaler" syndrome, everything hasn't gone a bit Swalelistic now actually, this ego knows the right dog whistle which will conveniently make the proles forget about the previous Swaloids and prostrate himself gratefully.

[swaledale]

Ah yes, the "Little Swaler" syndrome, everything hasn't gone a bit Swalelistic now actually, this ego knows the right dog whistle which will conveniently make the proles forget about the previous Swaloids and prostrate himself gratefully.

Sometimes you make sense, unfortunately this post isn't one of those! Never mind, it must be nice to live in fantasy land, I guess it stops you worrying about things you don't understand. Ah bless.

[ramAnag]

We’ll have to agree to differ on all of that rA, especially your come what May downer on all things HMG. Regretably for your idealist principles everything’s gone a bit nationalistic now our collective cocks are on the block and on this occasion my nation is ahead of the game and bloody great. My mums getting her jab on Saturday and if that is to the exclusion of someone unknown somewhere else in the world, so be it, not that I begrudge anyone their dose

I don’t think you read what I wrote, Andy. I did say IF they deliver, all credit to them, but Johnson’s already backtracking and they’re already talking about delivering the vaccine in a way the manufacturers don’t necessarily approve of.

I want this Government to succeed in the vaccination process as much as you do and I’m genuinely glad for your Mum, but the way forward is is for a united Worldwide effort not nationalistic selfishness and tub thumping. If that’s ‘idealistic’ then it’s probably an indictment of the current state of humanity...where’s your man JC when we need him.

[swaledale]

I don’t think you read what I wrote, Andy. I did say IF they deliver, all credit to them, but Johnson’s already backtracking and they’re already talking about delivering the vaccine in a way the manufacturers don’t necessarily approve of.

I want this Government to succeed in the vaccination process as much as you do and I’m genuinely glad for your Mum, but the way forward is is for a united Worldwide effort not nationalistic selfishness and tub thumping. If that’s ‘idealistic’ then it’s probably an indictment of the current state of humanity...where’s your man JC when we need him.

I'd say it has always been the state of humanity rA and people are either too lazy, too self obsessed or simply too stupid to recognise it. Anybody who has the temerity to suggest that there could be a different approach is dismissed as an idealist.

That of course is the lazy approach of people who seem to be unaware that much of what they enjoy in life today, be they vaccines, the health service, better wages, better working conditions, the right to free speech, better safety, have all been achieved by people who were idealists.

Of course ideals are not always fully attainable, but if there isn't the vision or the ideal then very little will be achieved.

Sadly to the simplistic mind, nationalistic tub thumping will always be attractive.