THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[AllNottsAreWe]

I am not an advocate of wanting people to lose their jobs, especially in the public domain, unless they have been guilty of any offensive or illegal behaviour.

When NA was appointed I was quiet pleased as he had worked wonders at Wimbledon, despite the last 12 or so games there.

On purely a personal note, he comes across as a very likeable and respectful man.

I spent a lot of money last season on trains, coaches and car travelling to away games and for the most part enjoyed the season.

I know it's only 7 games in but I have lost much of my interest already, maybe it's the lockdown and fan free games, I don't know.
If fans were allowed back in, I would no doubt be there as it's a habit.

How do teams with much less resource manage to get things right more often than not. Stockport we expected to be up there, but Torquay and Maidenhead ?

Credit to them at these early stages.

Notts have no divine right to be in the playoff area, ask Wrexham and Chesterfield.

What I can't understand however is the pretty consistent theme (from commentary) from a lot of games - sloppy passing, no pace, laboured midfield, playing out from the back dangerous, no cohesion.

If NA were to be replaced, I would not be jumping for joy but would totally understand the decision.

If that were to happen, I have no idea who may be available and a better bet.

[magpie_mania]

Latest lockdown game.

How many 'Arley out' threads will be started today? Why not just add to all the others?

Not a pro or anti post.

[ThaiPie]

Hold your nerve. There are a few wetting their pants on this board.

I'm sure the Manager and the players know that the three defeats aren't good enough and the team needs to put a run together.

[SwalePie]

Blimey another one. Any objections to me merging this thread with the existing Ardley In/Out thread?

[SwalePie]

Blimey another one. Any objections to me merging this thread with the existing Ardley In/Out thread?

Now merged

[Notts78]

The muppet has had 2 years. If you can't stamp your authority on a team/squad that is yours & your getting beaten by clubs that are not on par with Notts in any shape or form, sommat is wrong

Why is it wrong? If football was as simple as the most expensive side or the better the clubs stature is that they win, then football would be boring. Based on what you are saying a number of managers should be sacked this morning for losing in the FA Cup to lesser teams. Sunderland, Colchester, Rochdale, Accrington, Port Vale and Grimsby all among them. The irony is that Port Vale lost to a team that had we played and lost to, this board would be in meltdown, again.
Promotions and titles are not won or lost after 6 games.
That said I am getting to the point where I feel that Ardley won’t achieve what we need. He didn’t do enough to keep Dennis, our most natural goal scorer. His tactics don’t get the best out of the players he has available to him. Simply speaking we should be a 4-4-2 side with players we have, not trying to be like a Prem side playing 4-3-3. I would also like to see us mix it up when we are in possession. Sometimes keeping the ball has its benefits, but so does knocking it long early.
Ardley has bemoaned the players individual errors for our defeats, and he has a point. BUT asking Conference players to play the way they are being asked to will always cause trouble.
In all our time under Ardley we have struggled with set pieces. Taking and defending them. We have needed more height and physical presence in the side for years, particularly in this league.
There are too many of us who think this squad should walk the league because a lot of the players have played at a good level and because we are Notts County. The problem for me is that too many of the players are not naturally prepared to do the horrible side of the game.
If we do get rid then we need a manager to come in who has a reputation of getting his sides to be physical, to out run our opposition, to grind teams down with relentless ‘in your face’ tactics. He must also look to add players with height and physicality.

[magpie_mania]

Why is it wrong? If football was as simple as the most expensive side or the better the clubs stature is that they win, then football would be boring. Based on what you are saying a number of managers should be sacked this morning for losing in the FA Cup to lesser teams. Sunderland, Colchester, Rochdale, Accrington, Port Vale and Grimsby all among them. The irony is that Port Vale lost to a team that had we played and lost to, this board would be in meltdown, again.
Promotions and titles are not won or lost after 6 games.
That said I am getting to the point where I feel that Ardley won’t achieve what we need. He didn’t do enough to keep Dennis, our most natural goal scorer. His tactics don’t get the best out of the players he has available to him. Simply speaking we should be a 4-4-2 side with players we have, not trying to be like a Prem side playing 4-3-3. I would also like to see us mix it up when we are in possession. Sometimes keeping the ball has its benefits, but so does knocking it long early.
Ardley has bemoaned the players individual errors for our defeats, and he has a point. BUT asking Conference players to play the way they are being asked to will always cause trouble.
In all our time under Ardley we have struggled with set pieces. Taking and defending them. We have needed more height and physical presence in the side for years, particularly in this league.
There are too many of us who think this squad should walk the league because a lot of the players have played at a good level and because we are Notts County. The problem for me is that too many of the players are not naturally prepared to do the horrible side of the game.
If we do get rid then we need a manager to come in who has a reputation of getting his sides to be physical, to out run our opposition, to grind teams down with relentless ‘in your face’ tactics. He must also look to add players with height and physicality.

I agree with this.

Not sure about how hard he tried to keep Dennis, but he doesn't appear to have replaced him.

The problem to me is that last season we came as close to promotion as possible without it happening, with good defensive, attacking and losing record. I wouldn't class it as failure. But we don't seem to have made any changes to make that one step up.

We need to use pace - to look as if we are going to score. Yesterday I am willing to forgive as I am sure the team was affected by Covid. But it was poor, and we need to improve massively to get anything v Stockport. I am not yet in the 'Ardley out' camp, but for me, now more than at any other time since we have been in the National League he needs to show how he can improve it, and quickly.

Curle was a good manager who fell into the trap of stubbornness when only playing one up front at home. Ultimately it led to his downfall. I hope Ardley doesn't go the same way with his insistence to always play it out from the back. There is a time for it, but there is also a time to get rid, and for the keeper to actually kick it out!

[irishpete]

Why is it wrong? If football was as simple as the most expensive side or the better the clubs stature is that they win, then football would be boring. Based on what you are saying a number of managers should be sacked this morning for losing in the FA Cup to lesser teams. Sunderland, Colchester, Rochdale, Accrington, Port Vale and Grimsby all among them. The irony is that Port Vale lost to a team that had we played and lost to, this board would be in meltdown, again.
Promotions and titles are not won or lost after 6 games.
That said I am getting to the point where I feel that Ardley won’t achieve what we need. He didn’t do enough to keep Dennis, our most natural goal scorer. His tactics don’t get the best out of the players he has available to him. Simply speaking we should be a 4-4-2 side with players we have, not trying to be like a Prem side playing 4-3-3. I would also like to see us mix it up when we are in possession. Sometimes keeping the ball has its benefits, but so does knocking it long early.
Ardley has bemoaned the players individual errors for our defeats, and he has a point. BUT asking Conference players to play the way they are being asked to will always cause trouble.
In all our time under Ardley we have struggled with set pieces. Taking and defending them. We have needed more height and physical presence in the side for years, particularly in this league.
There are too many of us who think this squad should walk the league because a lot of the players have played at a good level and because we are Notts County. The problem for me is that too many of the players are not naturally prepared to do the horrible side of the game.
If we do get rid then we need a manager to come in who has a reputation of getting his sides to be physical, to out run our opposition, to grind teams down with relentless ‘in your face’ tactics. He must also look to add players with height and physicality.

So, basically Ardley is useless. The FA cup is what it is banana skin games. We've had plenty of our own in it. If these players are making these mistakes, who is scouting them or do they just do it when they come to Notts.?It is general knowledge you need to be physical in this league, Ardley saw it with his own eyes last season but has done sweet fa about it.

[Notts78]

So, basically Ardley is useless. The FA cup is what it is banana skin games. We've had plenty of our own in it. If these players are making these mistakes, who is scouting them or do they just do it when they come to Notts.?It is general knowledge you need to be physical in this league, Ardley saw it with his own eyes last season but has done sweet fa about it.

That’s the point though Irish. It’s not just cup games that provide upsets. You get them in the League. Whether that’s our league, the Prem or La Liga so called underdogs win games. It’s football. It’s what I love about football.

[crazyfists]

I think last season we would all have taken a playoff final against Harrogate before a ball was kicked so for me he did well. What concerns me is there seems to be no progression, I fully expected us to kick on this season knowing how the league is and having the same pre season as everyone else but we seem to have gone backwards. We're far too over reliant on Roberts and Wootton, if they don't play or play well we don't create anything at all. Why in the Ardleys post match interview yesterday was he saying we can't stand up to the teams that are physical or in our faces, we all n knew that last season or even the relegation season and what has been done about it? It's no use in your third season say we're not standing upto the physical teams, it's been that way for 3 years, you're the manager ****ing sort it out Ardley

We really miss Cox I think, at least he had something about him in that respect. Abbott and Ardley are like Cannon and Ball.