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Thread: O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    Proud to not live in darkness like many others .
    Haven't you got some ironing to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    Here you go .. I'll help:

    Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians? For peace in the Middle East, they'd have to. Why shouldn't fellow Muslim countries do their bit, unless as I posted before, they don't want the conflict to finish?

    Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back? You're assuming again. Be very careful about 'assuming' things. Billions will need to be spent - agreed, but I'll guarantee you, it won't be all American money.

    Is what he says he is going to do against International law?
    Who's 'international law' and to be honest, who cares?

    At the end of the day, there's a slight chance it might happen - only slight. The point is, and this is what the anti-Trump nutters are harping on about, is that for years we have gone the way of the establishment. More dialogue, more money, more deaths, more conflict, more money.

    There surely comes a time, when those that go outside and actually see what's happening in the world, look and say it's just not working. Lets try something new.

    Ukraine is a very similar situation. Simple people like simple things. "I'm good and he's bad". That's about all they can understand. The trouble with that, it that it limits their ability to come up with a solution. They become narrow-minded in their views and it restricts their lateral thinking.

    There is a dearth in lateral thinking in the world. I believe intentionally, to prevent those with solutions from changing the status quo.

    The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.

    As a realist, I point to Chechnya, well Grozny in particular. Putin solved the issue there by flattening the city, killing the Islamic extremists and then rebuilding the city. It's working well, but the country is now run by a dictator, Ramzan Kadyrov.

    Hope that helps .
    I don't know if you went to university or not, but if you did graduate was your degree a masters in patronising arrogance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I don't know if you went to university or not, but if you did graduate was your degree a masters in patronising arrogance?
    Thank you comrade.

    держать красный флаг развевающимся

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post

    The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.
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    Why is this guy using NCM as a platform to bombard Notts fans with deranged crap like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Why is this guy using NCM as a platform to bombard Notts fans with deranged crap like this?
    So you're not in favour of democratic speech, however crap ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Why is this guy using NCM as a platform to bombard Notts fans with deranged crap like this?
    Easy answer, dont visit the thread, just because you are offended doesnt mean youre right (in the words of Ricky Gervais). Freedom of speech is being stamped upon already, make use of what you have at the moment until they close down this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    Here you go .. I'll help:

    Do you think that Jordan and Egypt will take the Palestinians? For peace in the Middle East, they'd have to. Why shouldn't fellow Muslim countries do their bit, unless as I posted before, they don't want the conflict to finish?

    Do you think the Americans will spend billions to rebuild Gaza for the Palestinians to move back? You're assuming again. Be very careful about 'assuming' things. Billions will need to be spent - agreed, but I'll guarantee you, it won't be all American money.

    Is what he says he is going to do against International law?
    Who's 'international law' and to be honest, who cares?

    At the end of the day, there's a slight chance it might happen - only slight. The point is, and this is what the anti-Trump nutters are harping on about, is that for years we have gone the way of the establishment. More dialogue, more money, more deaths, more conflict, more money.

    There surely comes a time, when those that go outside and actually see what's happening in the world, look and say it's just not working. Lets try something new.

    Ukraine is a very similar situation. Simple people like simple things. "I'm good and he's bad". That's about all they can understand. The trouble with that, it that it limits their ability to come up with a solution. They become narrow-minded in their views and it restricts their lateral thinking.

    There is a dearth in lateral thinking in the world. I believe intentionally, to prevent those with solutions from changing the status quo.

    The idealogists think of democracy and a beautiful world and flowers and fish leaping out of the sea and everyone holding hands.

    As a realist, I point to Chechnya, well Grozny in particular. Putin solved the issue there by flattening the city, killing the Islamic extremists and then rebuilding the city. It's working well, but the country is now run by a dictator, Ramzan Kadyrov.

    Hope that helps .
    What are idealogists? People who study ideals?

    Yes, if you completely destroy a place, then rebuild it in whatever image you like, and appoint a puppet dictator, it will "solve" the problem of the people who used to live there. One might almost call it... a final solution...

    And... are you a satire account? I honestly can't picture anybody writing the above with a straight face. Especially about Ukraine. Wonder what you'd have said about nazi germany if you'd been alive at the time.

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    MDS - That's a massive leap, isn't it? I asked a question
    Kelsdyke - Why assume I'm offended. I'm not.

    I just wanted to know why we're getting so much of this 'idealogists', democracy, flowers and fish crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Why is this guy using NCM as a platform to bombard Notts fans with deranged crap like this?
    It didn't stop Kremlin Andy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    It didn't stop Kremlin Andy.
    Well we have one from each side now. Two peas out of the same blinkered pod!

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