O/T Coronavirus Thread (3)

[sota]

Come on Sota let’s hear is it

Well Top, seeing as you asked.
It was about 5 years ago when I was a professional mingler. One of my Missus's clients was the Ritz Carlton group and they have a hotel and residencies downtown and a Beach Club on Lido Key. Our contact at the Ritz asked me to mingle at the Beach Club as she said I look the part (whatever that means).
Anyway, my job was to mingle and look good and help attract new members. It seemed to work even though the joining fee was $120,000 and then $10,000 a year membership.The bar was free for me so all I had to do was drink copious amounts of Grey Goose and mingle.
Afterwards Mrs Sota and I would eat in the restaurant.... all on the house.
I spent one evening chatting to an attractive woman who gave me her room number, as usual, but she bored me to tears moaning about the fact that she'd just got a tax bill for $3,000,000!
Not a bad evenings graft, I'm sure Roly will agree.
PS Graeme Souness was a member there then but I think he sold up.

[sota]

PS speaking of GS, Ive never seen a bloke of his build leg press like he can. Absolutely insane.

[millertop]

Well Top, seeing as you asked.
It was about 5 years ago when I was a professional mingler. One of my Missus's clients was the Ritz Carlton group and they have a hotel and residencies downtown and a Beach Club on Lido Key. Our contact at the Ritz asked me to mingle at the Beach Club as she said I look the part (whatever that means).
Anyway, my job was to mingle and look good and help attract new members. It seemed to work even though the joining fee was $120,000 and then $10,000 a year membership.The bar was free for me so all I had to do was drink copious amounts of Grey Goose and mingle.
Afterwards Mrs Sota and I would eat in the restaurant.... all on the house.
I spent one evening chatting to an attractive woman who gave me her room number, as usual, but she bored me to tears moaning about the fact that she'd just got a tax bill for $3,000,000!
Not a bad evenings graft, I'm sure Roly will agree.
PS Graeme Souness was a member there then but I think he sold up.

Sounds good Sota, do you still ‘ look the part’ now?

[flourbasher]

There are images on the news this morning of a packed flight between Dublin and the uk
Rather than blame the airline or govt (Irish before the looney left jump all over it), surely everyone has to take responsibility for their own health and safety as most existing H&S regulations stipulate.
What on earth is so urgent that make people put their lives, and the lives of others, at risk

Even using a ferry would afford a better chance of adequate social distancing assuming they are operating

[millertop]

There are images on the news this morning of a packed flight between Dublin and the uk
Rather than blame the airline or govt (Irish before the looney left jump all over it), surely everyone has to take responsibility for their own health and safety as most existing H&S regulations stipulate.
What on earth is so urgent that make people put their lives, and the lives of others, at risk

Even using a ferry would afford a better chance of adequate social distancing assuming they are operating

You’d think they would get off when they saw how packed it was but obviously getting to wherever they were going is more important than their/others lives.
Absolute morons

The person taking the photo stayed on I take it then complains when he get off in London ?

[Shark27]

There are images on the news this morning of a packed flight between Dublin and the uk
Rather than blame the airline or govt (Irish before the looney left jump all over it), surely everyone has to take responsibility for their own health and safety as most existing H&S regulations stipulate.
What on earth is so urgent that make people put their lives, and the lives of others, at risk

Even using a ferry would afford a better chance of adequate social distancing assuming they are operating

That's what I wondered when it was mentioned on here (talk sport hosts moaning). Who are all these people getting flights while we are stuck here in our houses? Why is it so essential that they are on a plane? Again, some people in this country don't want to take responsibility. When they get the virus it will be the government's fault for letting them get on a plane.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

One of the things the U/K did wrong, was not cancelling the Cheltenham Festival racing meeting, the government allowed people to mingle & then allow them to spread the coronavirus, if it was present at that time.

[animallittle3]

One of the things the U/K did wrong, was not cancelling the Cheltenham Festival racing meeting, the government allowed people to mingle & then allow them to spread the coronavirus, if it was present at that time.

That's why in a crisis such as this you need someone in charge of the country who is not afraid to make unpopular decisions in the national interest .

I don't dispute there wouldn't have been hell on and he would have got pelters for it .

The standard line of course from the government is that we were led by science which appears to be rolled out to cover every controversial aspect of their handling of the pandemic .

The scientific line seems to be along the lines of this is a new virus and we are learning about it all the time .

It's hardly convincing stuff .

I remember at work having conversations with colleagues along the lines that we are amazed this festival is going ahead given the situation was starting to become real in the UK at that time .

Everyone one knows that Cheltenham is attended by 90k punters for four consecutive days with the majority of people watching the event close together .

It also creates a huge amount of revenue , millions of pounds of which taxation gets a slice .

It's one of the things likely to be asked in an inquiry so hopefully an explanation will come out of it .

[KerrAvon]

That's why in a crisis such as this you need someone in charge of the country who is not afraid to make unpopular decisions in the national interest .

I don't dispute there wouldn't have been hell on and he would have got pelters for it .

The standard line of course from the government is that we were led by science which appears to be rolled out to cover every controversial aspect of their handling of the pandemic .

The scientific line seems to be along the lines of this is a new virus and we are learning about it all the time .

It's hardly convincing stuff .

I remember at work having conversations with colleagues along the lines that we are amazed this festival is going ahead given the situation was starting to become real in the UK at that time .

Everyone one knows that Cheltenham is attended by 90k punters for four consecutive days with the majority of people watching the event close together .

It also creates a huge amount of revenue , millions of pounds of which taxation gets a slice .

It's one of the things likely to be asked in an inquiry so hopefully an explanation will come out of it .

It would be surprising if there wasn’t some spread at Cheltenham and via the Champions League game played at Anfield . I would be surprised if the government doesn’t either agree or is forced to publish the minutes of the SAGE meetings at which decisions upon them were taken so that we can get to see the science and policy behind them.

I don’t envy the government for the task they have at the moment. The fact is that this is a new disease and we don’t know much about it. Another fact is that the government has to balance its actions on the virus against the need to keep the economy running. I know that sort of comment leads to the ‘profits not people’ drivel, that is popular from the Left on Twitter at the moment, but the fact is that people die when the economy tanks.

We heard a lot about confirmation bias on here at the weekend. Other examples of bias are hindsight bias and outcome bias.

[WanChaiMiller]

If you look at what has happened in London (population density 4,542 per square km), Madrid (5,400 / sq. km) and New York (10 431/sq. km – seriously?) – all major airline hubs - it’s not hard to see why they have been hit so hard. It’s a matter of maths, not politics.

The above begs the question of why Seoul got off so lightly with a pop density of 17,000 people per square kilometre. My suspicion is that South Korea is a country that learned lessons from the SARS and MERS outbreaks that have hit it in the last twenty years, such that both the government and the public were better able to recognise the risk and deal with it.

Hong Kong and Singapore have similar population densities - not sure the phrase Id use is a 'matter of maths'. Id be more interested to know how they dealt with it. I think we ignored their experience.

The thing that stands out for me is countries which advocate the use of masks seem to have better outcomes. HK announced yesterday it would give every citizen a mask for the next phase when they exit lockdown.

HK, Singapore, South Korea and, dare I say, China all fell back on their experience of MERS and SARS. They know the risks and methods to protect themselves and quickly slip into mode.

They've had procedures in place since the SARS outbreak in 2002. Temperature is tested at airports and border crossings, there is continual advice on washing hands, wearing masks and advise on self isolation if you show symptoms.