O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[slack_pie]

Good post and I agree entirely

Seconded.

[andy6025]

The fork does he mean "they had a seat"? They had a seat with their invaders and could have surrendered at any time?

It's going to be a very long four years isn't it

I think he referring to the negotiations that took place in Istanbul.

[Jampie]

Yeah, solid stuff Andy. I might quibble with you on some details, but why bother? In broad strokes you're bang-on, and arguing over the details is exactly what they want us to do.

[Mapperleypie]

Difficult to argue with much of that Andy.

The powers that be would rather the plebs argue amongst each other about the square root of f-all whilst they help themselves. Throw some scraps of disinformation into the mix and they can go about increasing their wealth and power with little to no pushback whilst others suffer the consequences.

[SmiffyPie]

Words fail me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c36wn949jxno

[Elite_Pie]

Words fail me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c36wn949jxno

I've read that today with utter disbelief.

Trump has to be be one of the most vile human beings on the planet.

[Mapperleypie]

I've read that today with utter disbelief.

Trump has to be be one of the most vile human beings on the planet.

As many of us have mentioned before, Putin must have some decent kompromat on the orange thing, failing that Trump does not care about any sort of world order and sees Russia as a significantly better chance for him and his cronies to make more money as opposed to the significant financial liability that is spending more money backing Ukraine. Which of course is true.

It's so crass, it's Trump, and in the long-term the US are going to lose a significant amount of soft capital world-wide when from election cycle to election cycle they are willing to flip-flop so massively on the world stage. Isolationism will only work in the very short-term. The rust-belt will surely learn quickly that their standard of living is diminishing with tariffs and inflation. The manufacturing jobs they expect to return are never coming back, they are simply not viable, and they have been fed a massive lie.

[SmiffyPie]

.....Russia as a significantly better chance for him and his cronies to make more money as opposed to the significant financial liability that is spending more money backing Ukraine. Which of course is true.

Nailed it there.
The first thing he mentioned when his ""TRUMP" has the power" remark was the business opportunities available with Russia, then there are all the rare earth comments he has made. All he sees is a profit/loss ledger and is simply devoid of any other emotion.

[i961pie]

I've read that today with utter disbelief.

Trump has to be be one of the most vile human beings on the planet.

So true he is repulsive human being and an out and out liar who is looking more and more like Putins puppet.

[Old_pie]

So true he is repulsive human being and an out and out liar who is looking more and more like Putins puppet.

They both share half the same letters, maybe from the same mould. Trump is a serial liar, cheat and would have been a dictator had the opportunity to deny the Biden win succeeded. However he seems to be a character (from the Wild West) that the "merkins" admire and so they reap what they sow. The problem is the rest of the world who didn't get a vote have to live with that.

There were times that Zelenski was like a petulant kid but when your nation is being destroyed it is easy to understand the panic and frustration especially over earlier "merkin" assurances, pre-Crimea, that Ukraine giving up their nuclear arsenal etc would be a safe act.

At first, in this recent round of "peace talks", I thought Trump was playing some clever game, but if he is it is not one that the rest of us want to hear. I don't know how far the rest of the Western free world can rally against Trump, and especially a Trump/Putin alliance. If there is a WWIII it is going to be from a source unimaginable at the turn of the year.

Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping, and Putin of course, must be rubbing their hands in delight watching this pantomime (or is it a tragedy) show. One can only hope that the collective "merkin" administration has the guts to make america great again and if they don't then presumably they will never be a trusted nation again.