Is it all bad?

[ShottermillSaint]

Whilst reading the forum this morning there is a recurring mantra in my head

"We should have taken that Sunderland fa cup game more seriously"

[OhWell]

Disagree with that. None of us know exactly what happened but I suspect Cortese was upset about being called to account and reined in. It wasn't his money that he was controlling and he didn't enjoy the same relationship with Katarina as with her father. That's probably why he resigned.

He may have had big aspirations but his actions were increasingly becoming more capricious and irrational. Classic dictatorial tendencies by a man for whom PR didn't appear a priority.

Who knows where we would have ended up had he been left unchecked. I suspect the massive debts incurred would have become astronomical, toxic and ultimately terminal.

All my opinion of course.

Again thoughts with you and your family Baz.

Fully agree with Kernow here and do believe as stated earlier, the fact that Poch,Adam and Luke share the same Agents and possible that other players at the club may also be with the s

[saint_martin]

Keep Strong Baz, you and your family are in our thoughts.

Obviously there are those here that are feeling hard done by at the moment with the departures, a month ago when we were talking about how many of our players were on international duty I thought this will be good for the players and bad for us.

I think we should have expected this really, most of our first team was paraded on the international stage and agents must see the world cup as their busiest and most fruitful period. Agents would have told their players to sign those 5 year contracts, because the agent will take a cut, then the player will sell for more and the agent will take a bigger cut again.

If you put your best players in the shop window, you can't be surprised when they sell, imo.

We just have to dust ourselves off and start again and hope lessons are learned about taking your opportunities with the cup runs because that is all we will have to look back on in the end.

We're a selling club, a rung on the l

[CostaBaz]

Thank you all, for the kind comments.

I stick with my belief that, under Cortese/Pochettino, the club had become rotten, morally bankrupt, with the players' collective behaviour now echoing that by taking the easy route out of the club, using "lack of ambition" as an easy excuse to deflect blame from themselves.
A well respected poster, on another forum, following a chat with the Saints official photographer, commented that the photographer referred to the players as being "brainwashed", by Pochettino.
That so many players feel that they can no longer work for SFC, without Pochettino, putting them over his shoulder and burping them, tends to indicate that the whole ethos of the club was unhealthily.

In a perverse way, I am enjoying the squealing, squirming behaviour of fans on various forums, who are pre-judging the board and new management, before they have overseen a single game, post Pochettino.
A little bit of success and they are behaving like Man Utd fans, expecting everything

[souths1]

In a perverse way, I am enjoying the squealing, squirming behaviour of fans on various forums, who are pre-judging the board and new management, before they have overseen a single game, post Pochettino.
A little bit of success and they are behaving like Man Utd fans, expecting everything to go their way, without earning it.

Do you think we are now in a stronger position than last year?
After our "little bit of success" is it wrong to hope we move on to better things?
And as for "not earning it" if our team didn't earn it why have we been r@ped?
And if you mean the fans not earning it, then I don't get that one.

Ps, hope everything goes well for you and yours.

[proclaimer]

Are we in a stronger position?
Not at this time obviously but the new manager is about to arrive and we are still getting the bad news out of the way.
Could we be in a stronger position? Nobody knows. New generations coming through, money in the bank and a Manager with a good reputation in football. I'm staying glass half full.

[proclaimer]

Best wishes Baz.

[CostaBaz]

In a perverse way, I am enjoying the squealing, squirming behaviour of fans on various forums, who are pre-judging the board and new management, before they have overseen a single game, post Pochettino.
A little bit of success and they are behaving like Man Utd fans, expecting everything to go their way, without earning it.

Do you think we are now in a stronger position than last year?
After our "little bit of success" is it wrong to hope we move on to better things?
And as for "not earning it" if our team didn't earn it why have we been r@ped?
And if you mean the fans not earning it, then I don't get that one.

Ps, hope everything goes well for you and yours.[/quote]

Thanks.
Don't yet think we are in a stronger position, but I refuse to accept we will be carp before a ball has been kicked.
It's never wrong to want success, once it has been tasted, but some fans seem to think it has n

[cunninglinguist]

Isn't it refreshing, seeing two minnow clubs fighting it out for a quarter final in the world cup?

Of course, the bigger countries will generally have more chance of having a better team, by virtue of having a bigger pool of players to choose from. But international football provides an opportunity for a little country, with a fluke team of class players, spawned at the same time, to attempt to sit at the big table.

The big boys can't buy them (excluding the chance of bribes, of course). It's true competition!

[Brockley_Jack]

I for one am excited and quite liking all the change. The media are selling us a story of meltdown, I ain't buying it!

Luke? Daaamn good money for him, especially as his replacement will cost a fraction of that.
Adam? Laters. He'll take time to settle up there and I don't see him working too well in that side. Great player for us but a bit of a one-trick-pony. The next Joe Allen.
Morgan? Ok, damn I'll miss him in a Saints shirt when he eventually goes.
Dejan? Didn't fire on all cylinders for most of the 2nd half of last season and the underrated Fonte carried him for the most part.

More so I really like Koemans style of football and can't wait to see us playing some great attacking football under his stewardship. Sure the new players need to settle so it might be a bit wobbly as the season starts but we'll come good.

We are Southampton, the pride of the south! Onwards and upwards! We're off shopping.