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Thread: Fracking - for or against?

  1. #51
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    Why use data from a hack from the Telegraph when you can use proper data?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ost_Report.pdf

    It is a long read so I have put the figures below for commissioning a generator to come on line in 2025. Costs per MWH for several options. My favourite, tidal power, is not included because it is still in development stage.

    Nuclear £95/MWH
    Coal (Dirty) £136/MWH
    Coal (carbon capture) £148/MWH
    Clean gas turbine £189/MWH
    Dirty gas turbine £110/MWH
    Offshore wind £100/MWH
    Onshore wind £61/MWH
    Solar £63/MWH

  2. #52
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    Any data with a link including gov and or government wants throwing in the shredder

    Evening 59_60

  3. #53
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    Evening Alto!

    We have to get our data from somewhere though - otherwise we really are in the dark (pun not intended)

  4. #54
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    Agree, but numbers can and are manipulated by all Governments to fit their agenda, like the unemployed and NHS just to name 2, you may say I'm pessimistic but past fiddling of these figures cannot be forgotten, maybe by the cheats and liars that adjust them but not the rest.

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    Fracking in Britain? No

  6. #56
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    I've had a look through that report 59-60, they give the game away immediately in the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of the intro,

    "The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) regularly updates estimates of the costs and technical specifications for different generation technologies used in its analysis (these were previously published by the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC)). Cost data is broken down into detailed expenditure per MW capacity or MWh generation for the full lifetime1 of a plant including planning costs, construction costs, operating costs, and carbon costs.
    During 2015, DECC undertook several major updates to the assumptions that underlie its levelised cost analysis."

    The whole report is awash with words like 'assumptions', 'assumes', 'uncertainties'. Looks like the Ministry of Guesswork has been working overtime again.

  7. #57
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    Maybe Sinkov, but find me a more credible source!

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