o/t were will it end?

[Casper64Frank]

Never said it was straightforward sawmiller.
Tories intention is to decrease corporation tax & the Labour Party will increase it to fund renationalisation & other areas. You're missing the point, if they pitch it too high in the UK some sectors will resent it, some will move their cash elsewhere or cut back on their investment.
mmm, some people have 2 cars on their drive, holidays abroad and are better off under the Tories some just don't trust Labour.
Jezza is preaching to the wrong people, he needs to come out of his inner circle & try to convince a large sector of floating voters that want to vote Labour but don't trust them.

[millmoormagic]

Never said it was straightforward sawmiller.
Tories intention is to decrease corporation tax & the Labour Party will increase it to fund renationalisation & other areas. You're missing the point, if they pitch it too high in the UK some sectors will resent it, some will move their cash elsewhere or cut back on their investment.
mmm, some people have 2 cars on their drive, holidays abroad and are better off under the Tories some just don't trust Labour.
Jezza is preaching to the wrong people, he needs to come out of his inner circle & try to convince a large sector of floating voters that want to vote Labour but don't trust them.

I get that Frank, i get that some companies, in the event of a labour gov't, will pull out of Britain, good riddance in that case, don't forget either, that we're smack in the middle of a brexi that is no doubt going affect things further.
This thing about folk having two cars on the drive etc etc, to be honest you're talking like Corbyn is some sort of rabid communist, don't believe the media bull Frank, he's far from that, some people may be better off under the tories, i'm here to tell you that the vast majority of ordinary folk arent, and getting poorer by the day, most folk havent had a pay rise for the last 7 years, the NHS is in real peril, the welfare system screwed, the country is going down the drain, and for me the choice is black and white.

[sawmiller]

I don’t think I am missing the point I hear people say lots of things about Ireland and Dublin but often wonder how much they really know about the nuances of what goes on here
I do agree but there probably is the threshold limits of low and high times which none of us really have much of a clue about where or how much that is It is certainly worth exploring part nationalisation as some of the profits would then go back into the domestic Exchequer rather than the French German Hong Kong or other exchequers

[millmoormagic]

I don’t think I am missing the point I hear people say lots of things about Ireland in Dublin but often wonder how much they really know about the nuances of what goes on here
I do agree but there probably is the threshold limits of low and high times which none of us really have much of a clue about where or how much that is It is certainly worth exploring part nationalisation as some of the profits would then go back into the domestic Exchequer rather than the French German Hong Kong or other exchequers

That's my point SAW, we have industry owned by foreign companies investing their profits in their own country's, absolutely scandalous, and it's all over the UK in all sorts of industry, shameful if you ask me.....

[frogmiller]

That's my point SAW, we have industry owned by foreign companies investing their profits in their own country's, absolutely scandalous, and it's all over the UK in all sorts of industry, shameful if you ask me.....

We do the same.

Interesting speach about to be given by Corbyn.

[great_fire]

Never said it was straightforward sawmiller.
Tories intention is to decrease corporation tax & the Labour Party will increase it to fund renationalisation & other areas. You're missing the point, if they pitch it too high in the UK some sectors will resent it, some will move their cash elsewhere or cut back on their investment.
mmm, some people have 2 cars on their drive, holidays abroad and are better off under the Tories some just don't trust Labour.
Jezza is preaching to the wrong people, he needs to come out of his inner circle & try to convince a large sector of floating voters that want to vote Labour but don't trust them.

Corbyn in power means a run on the pound, run on the banks, currency controls, asset seizing, anyone with any money will leave the country as soon as he's elected if they have any sense. He'll make the rest of us skint as well, rampant inflation, it was be a disaster but won't last longer than 1 term unless he goes full communist and cancels the following election for some spurious reason.

[sawmiller]

Corbyn in power means a run on the pound, run on the banks, currency controls, asset seizing, anyone with any money will leave the country as soon as he's elected if they have any sense. He'll make the rest of us skint as well, rampant inflation, it was be a disaster but won't last longer than 1 term unless he goes full communist and cancels the following election for some spurious reason.

Don't think it is as black and white as that - some of these policies are mainstream in some well functioning countries i.e. Norway. There will be pros and cons just as there are with any government, of whatever persuasion, and I think you know that

[great_fire]

Don't think it is as black and white as that - some of these policies are mainstream in some well functioning countries i.e. Norway. There will be pros and cons just as there are with any government, of whatever persuasion, and I think you know that

He got two "E"s at A level though, he's no genius, and it would take a genius to make his kind of hard-left policies work, no-one has managed it yet.

[ragingpup]

I fear that you have misunderstood the position.

The allegation against me was: Strange how you're straight on when the Labour party is concerned, yet fail to put your head above the parapet when a tory commits a misdemeanor I asked for examples of that and was simply given a list of poor behaviour by Toy MPs. If someone can point me to a thread where those issues were raised and somebody wearing blue blinkers tried to brush them under the carpet or incorrectly claim that the Conservative Party 'acts swiftly' to deal with such matters rather than when shamed into doing so and I'll happily jump in.

I guess that is where I depart from the 'political animal'. I'll call out bigotry wherever I see it. I won’t use selective perception such as that seen on this and other threads, where behaviours such as that of Jared O' Mara are excused for reasons of political affiliation or where the behaviour of the unions in the 70s and 80s or the reality of the performance of nationalised industries are painted over with red paint.

Can I just defend Michael Gove's recent remarks which appear to be making light of victims of ***ual assault at the hands of Harvey Weinstein?

Clearly, this was just an off the cuff whimsy that simply attempted to bring some much needed humour to a hugely over blown situation. It was spontaneous, and whilst possibly just a little bit near the knuckle, he was under pressure and, after all, the comment was made when he was just a playful young pup a good 20-21 hours ago. The past should stay in the past.

We should all just stop carping at him and just take it as the flowery jest it was intended...

Kerr?

[Casper64Frank]

, to be honest you're talking like Corbyn is some sort of rabid communist, don't believe the media bull Frank, he's far from that, some .[/QUOTE]

millmoormagic, can you point out where I'm making out Jeremy Corbyn is a ' rabid communist, I can't remember everything I've quoted & don't have the time to go back through them.
You're wrong about the NHS it is a big black hole swallowing billions of pounds.
Can't fault the frontline staff or the treatment
that's handed out.
NHS at any price ? ?.no thanks.
btw mmm I don't take any notice of the media as far as politicians are concerned, I make my own mind up, always have, always will.