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Thread: o/t do people really believe there is a right and left in politics, today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    The left believe that the state can do everything, so does the PM, ergo she is on the left & not a conservative, big or small C.
    So where would you place a person who believes that the state should not intervene in imposing immigration restrictions?

    For a true right winger, according to your definition, state should not intervene, and our businesses should continue to import as much labour as they like. The only regulator is market forces: the companies should pay just enough to undercut UK workforce demands and entice foreign labour over here - so as to keep wages low and maximise profits.

    This my friend is what you are truly supporting as a supreme, 'extreme' right winger. You can only get the immigration controls you like with state intervention to impose those controls, and you are completely against that aren't you? To impose state controls would be to deny true deregulation from the state, weakening potential company returns in a 'survival of the fittest' mentality that the far right desire.

    Does that summarise your position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sota View Post
    As is anyone with a spine, according to you. Enjoy your 12 hour shift.
    Haha, if that's aimed at me Sota, you've got a very warped view of someone with a backbone, i suppose it's because you've been reading too much of what Trump has to offer fella, plainly. If you think that having a view that's bordering on fascism gives you a backbone then you're not only wrong, you're worryingly deluded, and sadly, its a view which is evermore prevalent these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    So where would you place a person who believes that the state should not intervene in imposing immigration restrictions?

    For a true right winger, according to your definition, state should not intervene, and our businesses should continue to import as much labour as they like. The only regulator is market forces: the companies should pay just enough to undercut UK workforce demands and entice foreign labour over here - so as to keep wages low and maximise profits.

    This my friend is what you are truly supporting as a supreme, 'extreme' right winger. You can only get the immigration controls you like with state intervention to impose those controls, and you are completely against that aren't you? To impose state controls would be to deny true deregulation from the state, weakening potential company returns in a 'survival of the fittest' mentality that the far right desire.

    Does that summarise your position?

    Well?

    You still working on your response? Be lovely to hear it you big old state interventionist lefty! 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    The left believe that the state can do everything, so does the PM, ergo she is on the left & not a conservative, big or small C.
    The state seems capable of building impressive football stadiums in Rotherham and giving a very important business in the town a secure future .

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