Now Pardew has gone

[sherwoodmag]

Called into the directors boardroom and told we want you to leave how do you feel? i.e. mutual consent is no different to being sacked.

If you say I don't agree because I don't want to leave then they say well your going anyway collect your things.It is just a way of sacking politely.

[ghostrider]

Called into the directors boardroom and told we want you to leave how do you feel? i.e. mutual consent is no different to being sacked.

If you say I don't agree because I don't want to leave then they say well your going anyway collect your things.It is just a way of sacking politely.

However people want to interpret it.
The way I see it is very simple.
They gave Pardew a contract, just like they did with Pulis.
Pardew couldn't get the required effort from a certain amount of players and the board start panicking.
They dangle carrots in the players faces with a nice holiday and they lose their focus even more. Including Pardew.

They want to sack him as they did with Pulis but know a compensation package to pay up his wages would be required.More than likely Pardew's been a gentleman... and rather than rock the boat he's took a smaller compensation package and a mutually acceptable parting of company has ensued.

That's my take and it could well be different to what I've said.
It could also be well different with your stance on being sacked.

[ghostrider]

You are coming across pretty patronising ghost.
You are all wrong because you are blinded by hatred, only I really understand - that is how it comes across.
"Your hatred is built up by the position you're in. I can see that" - were you planing on patting him on the head as you said that?

It reads like you ignoring all of his flaws and saying they are caused by fan hatred. I understand that is not what you are saying but it does come across like that.

I can't help how people take what I say. I say what I feel and people have every right to ignore it or argue it. I could argue exactly the same cases with people having a pop but I won't get into any of it.

I also have to question - why are Baggies more suited to the Championship? What makes you believe that?

Personally I think they'll come straight back up.

With their set up as it is right now with their owner/board and players, I genuinely believe their fans will get much more satisfaction out of pushing for promotion in the championship or holding their own rather than surviving in this premier league.
They might come back up but my guess would be, under their regime they could very well be a hit or a massive miss depending on what their owner is willing to do.

My guess is, they will enjoy a battle of wills around the play off mark before stagnating.
My best guess and only time will tell what will be what.

[TheBigSausage]

It baffles me how the likes of P45due and Hughes walk into other jobs .

If the owners of clubs think Pardew will get them out the mire they deserve everything they get.. its just a shame the fans have to endure the demise of their clubs in the fallout.

IF Rafa does a runner, feck nose who we will end up with , probably Pardew .

[Zippity]

Teams are too scared to think outside the box; like, say, Southampton did when they went for Pochettino-he'd had mixed results with Espanyol but their decision has been vindicated by how well he's done since. Ironic, then, that they've gone for one of the dinosaurs on the managerial merry-go-round.

The problem is that the Premier League-and all its millions-has become the be all and end all which means that, increasingly, only instant success is acceptable. Sadly, 'success' is seen as staying in this league for many chairmen and I get the feeling that all these managers-Pardew, Moyes, Allardyce, Hughes. (and to a lesser extent Pullis, Bruce, Redknapp and Hodgson) whilst not being seen as the man to take a club to the next level, are seen as someone who will 'steady the ship' because they 'know the league'.

[Geordie1974]

The way I see it is he has never won the Champions League.Unlike Rafa.But we can only talk about the now with Rafa not the past.
Where as we can talk about Pardew through his glory days in League 1 and a couple of top half finishes in the Premier League.
Goalposts moved all the time by ghost for a point of view that doesnt stand up anywhere.Pardew is finished now.For that I am happy.He did nothing but embarrass this club when here.Rafa does everything with dignity.
Before you say prove how he showed the club up.The headbutt at Hull,calling the Man City manager an old c##t.Not what I expect from a manager at Newcastle.
Also with you being pro Ashley,but not sure what you are today.You probably have this view as nearly every decent win we had which was not very often,the great Pardew dedicated it to Mike.
Hopefully Pardew will be away from football and the tv screens for a long time.

[ghostrider]

The way I see it is he has never won the Champions League.Unlike Rafa.But we can only talk about the now with Rafa not the past.

Nobody's pushing anything on him winning any champions league.
Most managers have never won it if you want to go down that route.

Where as we can talk about Pardew through his glory days in League 1 and a couple of top half finishes in the Premier League.

That's the argument and purpose of it. Not a bad manager but not a top manager.

Goalposts moved all the time by ghost for a point of view that doesnt stand up anywhere.

Stands up perfectly well and I spent time showing it. I put effort into it.

Pardew is finished now.For that I am happy.He did nothing but embarrass this club when here.

The man hasn't burgled your house. Your hatred of him is irrational.

Rafa does everything with dignity.

Put a topic up about Rafa and we can discuss him.

Before you say prove how he showed the club up.The headbutt at Hull,calling the Man City manager an old c##t.Not what I expect from a manager at Newcastle.

Yep, the only manager ever to lose his cool where a touching of heads is a headbutt and calling another manager is the biggest crime that only Pardew does.

Also with you being pro Ashley,but not sure what you are today.You probably have this view as nearly every decent win we had which was not very often,the great Pardew dedicated it to Mike.
Hopefully Pardew will be away from football and the tv screens for a long time.

Hopefully Pardew will get a job and do well at it because I hold no ill will against the man, at all.

[Geordie1974]

The man does not deserve the hatred and full on digs as though he's been some kind of non achiever, because ( as I've shown) he's far from it.

You havent shown me anything.What you put up doesnt back up what you say.Still a useless excuse for a manger and like I said a fraud.
Lets see how much he is rated now.See how long it is before or if he gets another mug to employ him.

[ghostrider]

You havent shown me anything.What you put up doesnt back up what you say.Still a useless excuse for a manger and like I said a fraud.
Lets see how much he is rated now.See how long it is before or if he gets another mug to employ him.

Yeah, let's wait and see.

[Geordie1974]

Ghost you really do twist things.You and P/boro turn every thread into an anti Rafa thread.As for most managers losing their cool,I couldnt care less.He was manager here when he did it.
I dont have a hatred of anyone.My opinion is that Pardew is a fraud.Do you unserstand.My opinion.Same thing you have.Can you let others on here have an opinion.
Was only yesterday I was called a gonk by you.I am old enough and have broad shoulders,but a bit childish dont you agree.Just because I dont agree with you on Pardew.
Get over it.The majority think Pardew isnt a good manger.You do.